Rhetoric from the Left Weakens Anti-Gun Rights Activists’ Positions

Posted 03.10.13 by Greg Campbell, TPNN Contributor

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In recent months, America has found itself embroiled in a national discussion concerning gun rights. In the wake of several high-profile shootings, such as the senseless murder of 20 children in Newtown, Connecticut, anti-gun rights advocates have labored to call attention to the issue of gun violence in America and have proposed a variety of new legislation to clamp down on access to firearms and gun rights in America.

One such anti-gun rights advocate is Mark Kelly, an astronaut and the husband of former Representative Gabrielle Giffords who, after being shot by a deranged gunman, has joined her husband to become a vocal anti-gun rights advocate.

Kelly and Giffords run a group called “Americans for Responsible Solutions” and have recently testified before Congress in favor of stricter gun laws.

However, in an ironic twist, it was reported on Saturday that Kelly purchased a 1911-style .45 caliber handgun, several “high-capacity” magazines and an AR-15 rifle- a rifle that many anti-gun rights activists call an “assault rifle.”

After receiving media inquiries concerning the apparent hypocrisy of him buying a weapon against which he has openly advocated, Kelly noted on his Facebook page,

“I just had a background check a few days ago when I went to my local gun store to buy a .45. As I was leaving, I noticed a used AR-15. Bought that too. Even to buy an assault weapon, the background check only takes a matter of minutes. I don’t have possession of it yet but I’ll be turning it over to the Tucson PD when I do. “

It is unclear if he has turned over the AR-15 to the Tucson Police Department. However, such a purchase is strange as the ability of a law-abiding citizen to purchase a rifle in Arizona has long been legal and demonstrating as such effectively proves nothing. The background check for Kelly likely took minutes and when it was concluded that he was in good standing with the law, he was allowed to purchase a firearm. How that affects the conversation of criminals obtaining firearms is not exactly clear.

Mark Kelly wasn’t the only anti-gun rights activist making news this week with rhetoric. Democratic Senator, Dianne Feinstein, made waves after she claimed that since there are some magazine restrictions in hunting requirements but no such broader federal magazine requirements, it is legal to “hunt humans.” She claimed, (emphasis added)

“The time has come, America, to step up and ban these weapons. The other very important part of this bill is to ban large capacity ammunition feeding devices, those that hold more than 10 rounds. We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines. Limiting magazine capacity is critical because it is when a criminal, a drug dealer, a deranged individual has to pause to change magazines and reload that the police or brave bystanders have the opportunity to take that individual down.”

Of course, the Senator is mistaken; in all fifty states and in all U.S. territories it is, of course, illegal to hunt humans.

The original architect of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, Feinstein has proposed a renewal of an even stricter Assault Weapons Ban that specifically outlaws nearly 160 commonly-owned firearms that include rifles, shotguns and handguns.

Her bill is one of several bills being considered for a vote in the Senate after it passes the Senate Judiciary Committee. The Judiciary Committee is set to consider four anti-gun rights bills that have created quite a rift between Republicans and Democrats in the Senate. The bills are the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (Feinstein), the Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013 (Leahy), the Protecting Responsible Gun Sellers Act of 2013 (Schumer), and the School Safety Enhancements Act of 2013 (Boxer).

However, it has widely been noted that even if Feinstein’s bill passes committee to go on to a Senate vote, its passage is far from likely. The USA Today noted,

“The future of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, which would ban 157 kinds of ‘military-style’ assault weapons, is gloomy at best in the Democratic-controlled Senate and worse in the Republican-dominated House of Representatives. Neither the House nor the Senate versions of the assault weapons ban have Republican co-sponsors.”



  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.penson.125 Michael Penson

    The “Hunting humans” quote from Sen. D. Feinstein brings forth these allegations and information. It is my hopes and my prays that you will be able to assimilate the following information into the coming Constitutional debate about Rights, Self-protection, guns in common use, and “…[dangerous] weapons or Instruments as are made and designed for

    offensive or defensive purposes…”

    Psychologists now understand the role of mental functions in individual and social behavior, in exploring the physiological and neurobiological processes that underlie certain cognitive functions and behaviors of Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor, BDNF for short.

    The “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up everyone of them (every gun) Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in. I would have done it.” In a 60 minutes interview in 1995” quote from Sen. D. Feinstein must be a long-term memory that has created a distorted theory and consolidation of information about the destructive nature of all guns. Of course an improper memory and invalid member of her oath to the Federal Constitution, 2nd, and 9th.

    “Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them. “ Miranda v. Arizona – 384 U.S. 436 (1966) at Page 384 U. S. 491.

    These quotes are embedded in the hippocampus is a major component of the brains of humans. It belongs to the limbic system and plays important roles in the consolidation of information from short-term memory to long-term memory.

    The Role in memory explained by ppsychologists and neuroscientists generally agree that the hippocampus plays an important role in the formation of new memories about experienced events.

    Mental health is being used in some states to forbid gun ownership. Sen. D. Feinstein has a mental health problem exhibited by her past and present statement. Sen. D. Feinstein does not need to have any weapons and please notify the authorities and have them confiscated.

    Mental health is being used in some states to forbid gun ownership. Sen. D. Feinstein has a mental health problem exhibited by her past and present statement. Sen. D. Feinstein does not need to have any weapons and please notify the authorities and have them confiscated.

  • UpChuck.Liberals

    As Leftist California marches on to obliterate our Rights they’ve come up with numerous laws to attempt ban weapons and ammo. This is just the first step to making us subjects, not citizens. http://cgssa.org/stopthetyranny

  • michaelross

    That piece-of-shit should be “institutionalized”, she is probably not sane enough to stand trial. Today’s politicians are like molten metal, all the slag rises to the top! We need to scrape off the slag and throw it away just like they do in the foundry! Feinstein is just another of the Devil’s Whores…………….

  • UpChuck.Liberals

    Here’s a little tidbit…”Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.” Punch line is, no warrant and they were hubbies guns.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-12/california-seizes-guns-as-owners-lose-right-to-bear-arms.html?cmpid=yhoo

  • Taskmasterendgame

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein
    Please God can we have Term Limits

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

    1. The 1994 Assault weapons ban was ALLOWED to expire because (despite considerable politically motivated effort) there was NO proof it had ANY measurable effect on crime.
    2. Of the estimated 300,000,000 PRIVATELY owned firearms, less than 3 in 10,000 are used annually in a shooting of ANY kind. For firearms falling into the extended magazine or the “appearance of an assault weapon” catagory, the number is approximately 1 in 3,300,000.
    3. The number of times firearms of all types are used BY CITIZENS annually to prevent crime is estimated at 1,700,000 to 2,300,000.
    Hysteria aside, LEGAL FIREARMS OWNERS are NOT a significant threat.
    http://westnet.com/~levins/guncontrol5.html

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  • Sven79

    It’s not a RENEWAL of the Assault Weapons Ban if it is even stricter than the original. It is a new, and completely unreasonable ban that makes many common .22 rifles illegal to sell. Yet, it is still being called a RENEWAL in the press, and by the politicians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.aranda.7 Brian Aranda

    “Limiting magazine capacity is critical because it is when a criminal, a drug dealer, a deranged individual has to pause to change magazines and reload that the police or brave bystanders have the opportunity to take that individual down.”
    Because the criminal, drug dealer and deranged individual will only use legal capacuty magazines, right?

  • usahou

    I have been reading allot about this issue and I can tell you there are smoke and mirrors out there right now. Rhino’s that are swearing they will protect the 2nd amendment and others saying they don’t have the votes. But, listening to the people in England and they all said the same thing “we believed that our elected officials would do what they said they would do, and we did nothing but complain online in chat rooms and blogger sites ….etc. There has to be something visual that everyone (including the liberal media) can see. A March (not with your weapons) peaceful March. But we have to get really serious about this. If the 2nd amendment falls so easy (with a simple vote, and the “shall not be infringed upon” is trampled on. Who knows what will be targeted next, then next, soon with nothing to fight back with (no weapons, no free speach, no right to assemble …etc) “they” do whatever they want with no fear of reprisals.

    • Huapakechi

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      “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” Winston Churchill

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      I wouldn’t wish to be one of the security or support staff either.

  • http://twitter.com/marmo6743 marmo

    this is laughable. maybe we should start up a safari hunt YEH an american safari hunt.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.blake.125 Jeremy Blake

    hahahahahahahah. You idiots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gomez.cooley Gomez Cooley

    You would think that with Whitehouse tours shut down (which are conducted by volunteers) and Obama creating furloughs for the only people that work in government, that this old hag would stop wasting taxpayer money with her bullshit. In fact, she should be charged for excessive oxygen consumption.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gomez.cooley Gomez Cooley

    I beg to differ with one issue in this article. Obama believes it is legal to hunt humans with drones, especially American citizens.

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    Well, you can’t just bypass the 2nd amendment, thats not allowed, thats not up for debate at all, the 2nd amendment will not be abridged by anyone except congress, senate, and not ever by just the pres. and Dianna (yuk). Somebody take her out and dance with her. She is apparently feeling neglected.. YuK.

  • michaelross

    Feinstein is one of many TREASONISTS and should be tried and hung as an example to the rest of that anti-American crowd!

    • http://www.facebook.com/gomez.cooley Gomez Cooley

      Okay. When are you going to do it?

      • michaelross

        Hey, I posted my opinion, what more do you want????????????
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        Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:05 AM
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        Gomez Cooley wrote, in response to michaelross:

        Okay. When are you going to do it?

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    • UpChuck.Liberals

      Off the Golden Gate Bridge???? I’d pay to see that, can we put Pelosi next to her.

  • Dora flores

    We must remain diligent as the feds are starting to go around the public and the media by working with the states. States are enacting unconstitutional gun laws at record pace. This is how they are seeing their progress and accomplishments come to fruition. We must be engaged in our state legislatures and demand that they pass 2nd amendment protection laws.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gomez.cooley Gomez Cooley

      The clean up begins at the local level and moves toward the federal level. Wink, wink.

  • http://www.cavalierx.com CavalierX

    That group, “Americans for Responsible Solutions,” needs one more word added to the name that starts with an “E” to make the acronym correct.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SFG5JFDJGENNEXY5DVD6L5IAMY MarilouH

    Any gun bill will start a Revolution….and it is time for one!! Clean out DC!!

  • jellibelli4@hotmail.com

    NONE of my weapons have EVER assaulted anyone @thank you mr.dalton well said!!!!!!! my son is an army vet who spent 18 months in afghanistan where he saw 2 close freinds give their lives defending our rights as american citizens,i find it highly insulting to think ANYONE would want to strip him of his right to defend himself and his family espeacialy after defending the rights of these liberal idiots!!!!!

  • Erin

    Amen Spyder. God bless. Thank u for your service.

  • http://www.facebook.com/D.palpal Dee Guess

    GUN GRABBERS WANT TO TAKE EVERYONE ELSE’S GUN AWAY BUT THEN GOES OUT AND GETS ONE FOR THEMSELVES AND MAKE SURE THEIR FAMILIES ARE PROTECTED?… SERIOUSLY?! WHY IS IT THAT THEY THINK THEY ARE BETTER TO CARRY ONE THEN ANYONE ELSE WHEN THEY ARE COMMITTING A CRIME AGAINST OUR 2nd AMENDMENT?

  • http://www.facebook.com/fossdavid David M Foss

    KELLY AND FEINTEIN ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS! NO ONE THAT WANTS TO LIMIT AN INNOCENT LAW ABIDING CITIZEN’S ABILITY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND FAMILY FROM A POSSIBLY HEAVILY ARMED INTRUDER IS “IN NO WAY” OUR FRIENDS!! WHY THESE PEOPLE AREN’T EVEN AMERICANS!

  • Joe C.

    So, Mark Kelly made a straw purchase on the ar15. On the form to purchase a firearm it asks if the firearm being purchased is for self. If not then the purchase will be turned down in the background check. And how many rounds does Dianne Feinsteins pistol hold? I read she has one of the few carry permits where she lives. I guess the things these fine people do is okay as long as it is not done by your average law abiding citizen.

  • Conservativesniper

    Is it just me or does feinersteiner look like she’s ready to take a 20 gauge barrel in her mouth for the good of the country?

  • http://www.facebook.com/doug.nicholson.56 Doug Nicholson

    Mark Kelly: “I noticed a used AR-15…I don’t have possession of it yet but I’ll be turning it over to the Tucson PD when I do.“ Oh, I’m certain that’s why he spent his own money, probably at least $1,000 and maybe a lot more, so he could turn it over to the PD. Yeah, right. And if you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I want to talk to you about. Hypocrite!

  • disqus_45qNNVBG7B

    Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington
    870 right in the doorway.

    I gave it 6 shells, then left it alone and went about my
    business.

    While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor
    boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and
    quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign right in front of our house..

    After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still
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    Alright, well I’m off to check on my spoons.

    I hear they’re making people fat.

  • Ken

    STOP ILLEGAL GUN TRAFFICKING….GET RID OF THE AFT (FAST AND FURIOUS)
    .

    • Patrioit

      Here Here!

  • charlie brown

    hard to believe a democrat would pass a stability test to buy a weapon,we need to change that immediatially!!!!!

  • Bill Graham

    Fascist Feinstein & Hanoi HiIIary.

  • huntingfreedominAmerica

    Til the truth is known this bull-Sh-t will keep happening. There should be a investigating into the CIA but that’s not going to happen so we can except more shooting every time the left wants to push gun control. If you really want to know why there are school shootings just watch this before it’s removed.http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/CIA

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Wilson/100000807901219 David Wilson

    Why does the people of california keep electing these old women to anything they are all crazy

    • Thea Patriot

      If I only knew what was wrong with Californians… Oh, this persons wanted to impose more laws that Oppress me even further–just like in Communists countries–I’ll vote that Oppressive person. I’m bewildered by the lack of thinking in California.

  • osteomed

    WE NEED TO REINSTITUTE TERM LIMITS AT ALL GOVERNMENT LEVELS… NOT ONLY TO THE POTUS, BUT TO ALL CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS ALIKE!!
    BRING BACK TO TERM LIMITS TO ALL POLITICIANS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rumsower Montie Rumsower

    Thirty or forty years ago she would have been escorted out of the room in a wrap around jacket. Now she is in congress. I can’t figure out when we went down the rabbit hole, but we are NOT in Kansas any more.

  • Thea Patriot

    They are not HIGH CAPACITY Magazines, they are STANDARD CAPACITY. Quit using the Liberal (AKA Communist) language.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.feige1 Alex Feige

    The only time I would kill a man is when he is trying to kill me… if you even as to try and take my weapons away from me I will send my bullets flying your way with the easy pull of a trigger, it is my right to protect myself and my right to bare arms to fight against scum and a tyrannical government like this bitch is a part of.

  • beadstallcup

    We best get rid of lunatic politicians like Dianne Finkstain and their gangs, before they gets rid of us!

  • Red55bird

    The Hypocrisy is it’s ok for we the Liberal left to go out and buy a weapon, but you little pee-ons must give up your weapon, America I trust only the NRA and I will stand my ground, and tell the Government ( Just Try and Take It )

  • Keith Joseph

    @ Dave. I don’t agree with you but am ok with free speech and you presenting your argument. You should however refrain from name calling if you want to keep the discussion objective as opposed to emotional. My problem with the left is that they base beliefs and opinions on emotion over rationale.
    Fact is, the second amendment was created to protect the citizens against a tryannical government. The only way we can be sure that is possible is if we are able to posess the weapons that would provide us a fighting chance.
    Do I believe we will ever come to that point? NO! WHY? BECAUSE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
    We all want to live in peace and go about our daily lives. No one on this thread wants to shoot and kill anyone. We just want to preserve our freedom and our constitutional rights.
    We (responsible gun owners) are not the enemy. Taking our guns will not prevent nut jobs from snapping.
    To solve a problem one must accurately identify the cause. It is not gun ownership.

    • Patrioit

      You’re right! The left simply wants disarmament of law abiding citizens, in order to make it easier to force we (peasants),to submit to whatever THEY want. Simply put “slavery”……Sorry,over my dead body!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1167414434 Don Coe

    Do us all a favor and post a warning when you put Mrs. Frankensteins picture pn a post. When i clicked on it a this Mugshot came on the screen, my dog yelped and my flowers shriveled up. Your scaring the women and kids too!

    • Patrioit

      “aint she (it) cute”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Henderson/100000110362082 Mike Henderson

    here is the funniest part of the gun ban threat. Many of my “progressive” and liberal friends went out an purchased the exact rifle that they are afraid of….The formidable AR-15 with the 30 and 50 round mag’s along with the ammunition ! and semi auto hand guns with allot of ammunition. So many sales that most gun stores are OUT OF STOCK….now I just have one question…..no politics here just an answer….WHY? I know why I have my weapons but why did they purchase them?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cal-De-Knikker/1510933320 Cal De Knikker

    Can Obama pass the same background check as Mark Kelley?

    • Patrioit

      He would be denied because of illegal citizenship

  • http://www.facebook.com/gordon.mcalvey Gordon McAlvey

    Diane Feinstein looks like a deranged ET with a bad toupee, ugly, just plain ugly. LOL.

  • http://www.facebook.com/esteban.j.sanchez.7 Esteban Jr Sanchez

    Damn pardon my French but this is a load of crap!!!!the tree hugging anti guns are actually pushing this forward?!!!its like literally shitting on everyone that fought for this country better yet dishonering our founding fathers and their dreams of “our America”,so were supposed to trust officer’s in our local police departments knowing how everything’s coming out of the dark lately with corruption finally bro.g displayed to the naked eye,drones passing through invading or privacy,and officials that vowed loyalty to our well being that seem to everyday become worse and worse on their actions and respect for us civilians and our rights ……everyone that clinging off gun violence and the pains that it cause apparently never been or felt for victims of it till it happened to them ,millions of “true Americans”,that enlist into our armed forces and those few good Samaritans that actually took their jobs to protect ans serve our communities get hurt get injuries have even died for their causes and not once has any of it come out in play to all this ,owning a gun isn’t and doesn’t make you pro to war pro to murder pro to anything bad but to those with intentions to do so but its our rights as Americans to protect ourselves from those with the bad intentions whether a handgun to a pocket knife,from a security system to an assault weapon,these regulations on guns have come up with the biggest excuses to ban and edit their own gun laws when its us the the people that are suffering the consequences good and bad ….its like America can’t even stand up for itself because” that was made illegal”,this country is truely doomed if we let them take the few things left to us and for us from the founders OF US …..apparently its come to this ……the weak have overrun the willing due to laws and democracy ,the strong have been made the mules and grunts to carry out the ideals of those leading us into this biased world we live in now…….I pity us all for all else is yet to come….

  • Charlotte

    I fully believe Mark Kelly should NOT be allowed to purchase any kind of a gun. He MUST have some serious mental and emotional issues related to his wife being shot and is not safe to own a gun. Take those guns away from him before he goes off his rocker and shoots some innocent people.

  • Notso

    I know this sounds mean but Mark Kelly should not even be able to purchase a weapon with
    Gabrielle Giffords in the home. If you talk about people with mental
    disorders not having access to a weapon. I realize it’s not her fault
    but to be honest and fair that does not matter. She has been damaged mentally
    and should be tested before being allowed to have access to any weapon
    for any reason. I’ve listened to her speak and she has issues. Again,
    I’m not saying she is not doing great for what happened to her… But do
    you really think she should have access to a weapon of any sort? If I had to guess I would not say she is 100% mentally.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GW6ALM3N2YFTOT6TN3GZGAHQG4 Frank Balcer

    it is clearly illegal to hunt humans,
    “No person shall be deprived of life, liberty and property without due process of law” it’s in our constitution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

    “Military Style” weapons are already illegal, if you are speaking of Fully Automatic weapons. What they call military “style” is all window dressing. They are calling weapons that “look intimidating” assault weapons, I can tell you first hand the intimidating part of a weapon is the part where you are looking into its barrel.

    The rest is “Fluff’ and political hyperbole.

    • Huapakechi

      I’ll take my old 30.06 over any version of those oversexed .22s that cost four times as much, shoot half the distance, and don’t have a third the knockdown power. And from my experience in VN and anecdotal evidence from both Iran and Afghanistan, those Mattel toys are still delicate and prone to failure.

    • Michael Cole

      As a former Police , I can tell you that looking down the barrel of a 12 gauge shotgun is a bigger deterrent, but any gun is better than no gun when a jerk has broken into your house.

  • TaskForce16

    One anti-gunner, buying a firearm to prevent anyone else from getting it? Makes you wonder how many more anti-gun people are out doing the same thing. Could the Obama Aministration be footing the bill for such a scheme? There’s been an aweful lot of tax payers money gone unaccounted for.

    • Michael Cole

      Have you tried to buy ammo lately? The government is buying up the supply of ammo from the manufacturers. They have contracts that require manufacturers to supply them before any civilian stores. They have not been able to take our guns but they have almost been able to dry up the supply of ammo. I have not been able to find common calibers for over a month in any of the local gun suppliers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/todd.nelson.94617 Todd Nelson

    My AR 15 and my Ruger Mini 14, both chambered for .223 ammunition are not “assault weapons”. They are, as Janet Napolitano calls the ones purchased by DHS, “personal defense weapons.” This is a more proper name for all semi automatic rifles and every American should use that term.

    • Red55bird

      Thank You Todd AR15 is no assault weapon, now there is a fully automatic that was ban in 1996 that looks a little like the AR-15 wish some still have but had to be reg. and grandfather to those who had one before 1996 and not to be sold.

  • Cynyster

    All of this discussion is making my head hurt.
    There is a couple of points that seem to have been overlooked.
    1. The Government may not restrict or punish one person for the acts of another. (this isn’t 2nd grade… you don’t punish all car owners because some idiot gets drunk and plows a bus full of nuns)
    2. All firearms are “property” and may not be restricted or removed from an idividual without “due process” (That means they take each citizen to court and have a trial)
    3. You cannot legistlate morality. If someone has it on the brain that they are going to kill another. They will kill with any device they can get their hands on. And while its not a comforting thought. be happy its guns… in the middle east its explosives.

    • Huapakechi

      In regards to your item 3, check the statistics on killings and suicides by young adults taking or recently off SSRI medications.

  • http://www.facebook.com/deweymarkle DeuWayne Markle

    The biggest point to it all is high capacity weapons or “assault rifles” being taken away from law abiding citizens is that it only harms the law abiding citizens. Criminals don’t follow laws. More so it leaves us defenseless against the one thing the second amendment was solely meant for – the government.

  • AD

    This is nothing more than yet another attempt to lie and deceive the public. Mark Kelly purchased an AR-15 and a handgun, and when it was made into a public spectacle, he quickly turned to falsely claim that it was all an attempt to disclose how “easy it was to buy” a rifle. This is an attempt at trickery. A failed attempt, at that. None of us care that you wish to purchase a rifle, Mark. If you are an astronaut, you are likely a law-abiding citizen and there is no reason you should not own one, if that is your wish. But do not lie to us all and attempt to shame the firearm purchasing process.

  • TaskForce16

    Buying a fire arm and then handing it over to someone else(in this case the PD), isn’t that skating olong the definition of a STRAW PURCHASE?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scooter-Orsburn/100000103956479 Scooter Orsburn

    WHY…… Is ANYONE .. paying ANY .. Attention to this old fool ? In the first place, Congress should have laughed her out of session for being Stupid enough to even introduce this UNCONSTITUTIONAL piece of Drivel ! Media should be ashamed for giving her air time.SHE should be incarcerated for conspiricy to destroy an amendment to Our Constituton ! COME ON PEOPLE !!!! REDICULOUS !

  • frank ross

    Mark Kelly got caught enjoying his true passion and love for nice guns. That just doesn’t fit the NEW AGENDA of him and his wife, traveling around the country to spew their anti-gun “LIBERALCRAP”. Good for them but not for us, just more of that “Let them eat cake” crap! DOWN WITH THESE DIRTY ROTTEN LIBS!

  • Greg Johnson

    Really? It’s legal to hunt humans? What are the legal references?

  • Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen

    I think I saw this hag on an episode of The Walking Dead recently. She is brain dead and looks like a zombie so she definitely qualifies for the part…

  • http://www.facebook.com/james.gilmer.94 James Gilmer

    damn liberal dictators…SHOOT EM JACOB

  • David Hidalgo

    If Mark Kelley bought an AR-15 with the intent of turning it over to the Tuscon police dept. then he broke the law, because the first question on the BATFE form is “are you purchasing this firearm for yourself of someone else.” He apparently lied on the form.

    • frank ross

      That’s very interesting, leave it to a well politically connected LIBERAL IDIOT, to get away with such a SERIOUS FEDERAL VIOLATON, I would assume. Thanks for that information.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001110266273 Mary Ellen Lucas

    Who the heck does she think she is to impose these bills on us, American Citizens!!!! She is a traitor to America and should be fired or impeached from office too. I don’t want to wait till 2014, Lets get rid of her now.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KIWHMI7F72WDWGDVPREEL7FPDI Richard Holmes

    The hag pukes all over herself with the same stinking crap as usual.

  • ramesaz

    “a deranged individual has to pause to change magazines and reload that the police or brave bystanders have the opportunity to take that individual down.”

    Obviously, Feinstein does not know much about guns. If one waits for him/her to pause and change magazines a total of 10 people (using her mag restrictions) could have been shot. Wouldn’t it be better if a “good guy with a gun” could take him/her out after the first shot? Seems logical to me.

    • TaskForce16

      You forget, logic is not a liberals better suit. For liberals, it’s all about FEELINGS.

    • Michael Cole

      The best way to frustrate a liberal is to use logic

  • robbberttt

    Also I think that Mr. and Mrs. Kelly are being disrespectful to one of the two men who tackled the shooter. He was interviewed on FOX and had a permit but elected not to pull his pistol out. This is never mentioned in the mainstream news. In fact he received little if no credit for his heroic effort.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richardmagic101 Richard Fischer

    We need an anti-nut job removal group.Someone invent a mood ring activated trigger.That sense hostility and disable the gun.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bob.lewis.319452 Bob Lewis

    Here is WHY they want to take your guns-

    The 2012 NDAA deemed the United States a “battlefield,” as Senator Lindsey Graham put it, and gave the president and his agents the right to seize and arrest any U.S. citizen, detain them indefinitely without charge or trial, and do so only on suspicion, without any judicial oversight or due process. The new Executive Order states that the president and his secretaries have the authority to commandeer all U.S. domestic resources, including food and water, as well as seize all energy and transportation infrastructure inside the borders of the United States. The Government can also forcibly draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill “labor requirements” for the purposes of “national defense.” There is not even any Congressional oversight allowed, only briefings.

    • Lesismor

      When did we become the United Soviet States of America?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Bluedawg58 Bill Sherman

    Dang I have guns I have never fired yet. I just buy them as I see them…If it’s a great deal I’ll own it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.c.bowling Linda Cline Bowling

    “In the wake of several high profile shootings,” is such a strange combination of words for me. It seems that any un-provoked, premeditated shooting or one that is the result of a criminal act of any kind, should be a “high profile” shooting. But, it will never be the GUN or FIREARM that is at fault in such situations. Guns are inanimate pieces of steel or other metal that has been shaped into a weapon that, with the proper ammunition, is capable of killing, or wounding, an animal or human being. But, IT CANNOT achieve this action on it’s own! Therefore, it is the human being involved and in control of the weapon that should be held accountable for the actions of the gun. Limiting the ability of law abiding citizens and those who only wish to use a gun for self protection will never solve the problem of outlaws or criminals such as drug dealers, human traffickers, illegal immigrants, and anyone determined to break the law, will not make our country safer. It will have exactly the opposite impact. Anyone with the best interest of our country at heart will never want to disarm the everyday, law abiding citizen.

  • robbberttt

    It’s obvious that Dianne thinks it’s legal to hunt humans. She should resign immediately.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.wehr.7 Jim Wehr

    mark kelly is the lowest part of the political ladder..he is using his poor wife that is never going to recover fully from this tragedy to push for a seat somewhere.. kelly is lowest form of a human..However, a good democrat..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Petrone/100001389499173 Ben Petrone

    If you look at MIZ Fienstien she appears to seem a little DERANGED.as also MiZZZZZZz Pelosi.:0

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1316942069 Dan Miller

    Why does Feinstein think it is legal to hunt humans? This woman is writing laws and feels the need to say such things. Seems to me, if you think that its legal to hunt humans, maybe she should write a law making that illegal. Maybe in the process she will realize that it is against the law. Who knows, she might even learn something.
    Additionally, what kind of moron spends a bunch of money on anything with the sole purpose of having it immediately destroyed or maybe he is giving it away to the police. Either way, the only type of person that that would make any sense to has to be a liberal. At least he is using his own money (I hope) to make the purchase and not telling everyone else they should pay for it.

    • TaskForce16

      Feinstein knows it’s not legal to hunt humans. She deliberately used those words and phrasing, knowing that it would resonate in the brain dead minds of her voter base.
      It’s same in repeating the phrase “GUN violance”, as though it is the only important violence that needs to be addressed. The theory is, that if we get rid of “GUNS”, the “violence” will go away as well. I wouldn’t have the same effect if you only referred to the mass shootings as simply “acts of violence”. Adding “Gun” to the phrase implies that guns are a precurser to the violence. To the simpletonian mind, guns + violence means that if you get rid of the guns, you can get rid of the violence.
      May sound workable, right?
      But what about all the hammer violence, ballbat violence, knife violence, fist/foot violence, etc.? OH yeah, I forgot, we don’t hear about all that, do we?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mavis.hucker Mavis Hucker

    Looks like she’s got a couple of puss bags hanging down underneath her chin. Must be where she keeps all that hate filled rhetoric!

    • etherbunny2

      I think those are the remnants of her t!ts after a couple of failed facelifts.

      • frank ross

        Even funnier!

    • frank ross

      Real funny!

  • http://www.facebook.com/curtis.c.curtis Curtis Curt Curtis

    Feinstein, Kelly, Bloomberg, Biden should all be dumped into the Hudson river. How dare they try to take my second amendment rights away.

    • frank ross

      First, they should be publically tried and convicted for treason and high crimes against “AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL” , then forced to serve HARD TIME, with REAL CRIMMINALS who have intentionally shot or killed innocent crime victims. Only then will they know the difference between GUNS KILLING PEOPLE and CRIMMINALS WITH GUNS KILLING PEOPLE!

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.j.rosario David J Rosario

    if he has not picked up the ar-15 means that his back round check did not come back yet.do they think we are stupid.

    • Grayzel

      To answer your question………..yes!

  • scopedope

    Screw Feinstein!

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.stonemetz Eric L. Stonemetz

    Push comes to shove, I’d prefer to deal with the veteran with PTSD rather than any politician. Most likely the vet

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.stephens.77 Christopher Stephens

    When the government thinks it knows best all the time and does not listen to its people it is no longer a republic. It has become Monarchy, communist or some other method of government but anything but what was originally set up. The Obama administration is already trying for a third term after he said he never would but we already know he will not tell the truth any thing but the truth.

    • Grayzel

      Try fascist…………..does it fit?

  • normlbiker

    is he being one of those people they are trying to stop??? He is “straw buying” the AR… He bought it and gives it to the police… that is the definition of straw purchases!!! THINK ABOUT IT

  • Grayzel

    I am by no means a gun expert but I do know within 30 minutes in my carpenter I can turn 2- 15 round clips into a thirty. I also know with duck tape I can turn 2 -15 round clips end to end and make a quick change 30 rd clip. But then again I am only a carpenter.

  • Ranchman

    Every single liberal is bat-sh*t crazy. Dump all of ‘em in the ocean, all those liberals. Good for nothing pieces of shiite.

  • danangel

    This Feinstein quote is insane: “Limiting magazine capacity is critical because it is when a criminal, a drug dealer, a deranged individual has to pause to change
    magazines and reload that the police or brave bystanders have the
    opportunity to take that individual down.”
    How many criminals and drug dealers does she think will obey her proposed law?
    And, if she takes the weapons from the ‘brave bystanders’, how can they take anyone down?
    I guess they just have to wait till the bad guy runs out of bullets and tackle him. (If there is anyone left)
    By the time police arrive, it is too late. Average response time in US is over 15 minutes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.w.boucher.9 Mark W Boucher

    TIME FOR YOU TO GO SEA HAG YOU HAVE HAD THAT CUSHY JOB LONG ENOUGH. AT 80 TYRS OLD UT OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY

  • http://www.facebook.com/ralph.baldi Ralph J Baldi

    I wounder is Dianne ever gave up Her CCW. one of the hardest pieces of paper in SF

  • Donny Smith

    How can the people of California keep electing this very STUPID person to office??

    • Michael Cole

      California has the most liberal education system in the country. The general population has been poisoned.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Sawyer/1179386159 Tom Sawyer

    I think before taking office or better yet even running for it, would be politicians should be subjected to a test on our constitution and Bill of Rights. If they score lower than 95 percent they are disqualified from running for office. Too many sound like retards.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000595980093 Gus Gustifer

    I find the humor in Irony absolutely enjoyable. Kelly in his pursuit of income, has sold his soul to the devil, just like Gore has done. Buying weapons that will only be kept from civilian hands for a short period. When new weapons or quality weapons are brought into an agency, no one monitors where they go, but they use the same pictures over and over to show us all how many they are destroying. However they usually walk out the back door into some officers home arsenal. being resold for income down the road at one of those awful gun shows. I love Irony. Thanks Kelly for doing the right thing. LMFAO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/charles.lowery.39 Charles Lowery

    For a liberal, it may seem a contradiction, but no society that seeks to be “civilized” can possibly consider rendering its citizens defenseless. Like car accidents, the occasional-and horrible-deranged killing is the price we pay for a higher good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

    If it were not for a gun, Feinstein would still be assistant mayor of San Francisco.

  • http://www.facebook.com/frank.streng.1 Frank Streng

    feinstein is a misguided has been, trying to make a name for herself….she has no grasp of the subject matter and every time she opens her mouth she proves she is a fool..sad we elect folks like this to represent us….

  • Bebop_Bob

    When I was a police officer I carried a 9mm with a 14 round clip, so did the criminals. By banning those clips, the police and citizens wont be able to get them but the criminals still will. What part of buying guns and large clips through the Black Market doesn’t the Government understand. I have no problem with background checks and a 3-day waiting period. I grew-up in a state that had a 3-day waiting period since the 70′s. Don’t penalize law-abiding citizens for what criminals do and make those citizens less protected, make more severe laws on criminals that use guns in the commission of a crime and enforce those laws to the maximum. By banning guns, ammunition, and clips, the Government isn’t protecting law-abiding citizens, it’s protecting the criminals.

    • TaskForce16

      Feinsteins’ bill exempts government officials and law enforcement, regarding weapons and mag restrictions.

  • buckofama2010

    She ought to be thankful there it is illegal to hunt humans or she would have been gone a long time ago, along with the rest of her marxist pals…no wait, is she even human?

    • TaskForce16

      Is she human? hmmm……this may require a research study.

  • http://twitter.com/custommotorcycl Peter Furman

    The country has been commandeered by an army of “crazies”,extremists,Constitutional criminals who have spent decades eviscerating the Contitution,the Bill Of Rights and perverting the Declaration of Independence into the Declaration Of Dependence!

    The Constitutional Republic,the “miracle” of Freedom,Opportunity,the American Dream turned Nightmare began arguably with the Assassination of J.F.K.,the Warren Commission coverup,the elevation of L.B.J. to President who “illegally,criminally,sent 60,000+ Americans to die in Vietnam/Cambodia “without Congressional consent.

    This was the beginning of political Tyranny,the failure of the electoral system,the unaccountability of decades of failure by the system to create any successful,rational Foreign or Domestic policy which is why they exist! They produce nothing,contribute nothing all the debt,the bankrupt entitlements,war after war all of which have have led us here!

    The Constitution,if nothing else was written to “Limit” government,empower the people,prevent the tyrant,the tyranny America is today!

    The second Amendment is prominent and supposedly inalienable as the Founders and Framers knew all too well that every American excluding criminals has the right to protect themselves,their families,their property,their country from anyone,everyone who would take them!
    Well, here we are and the tyrant,the tyranny,the attempt to make the people defenseless is here! We are bankrupt,divided,class warfare and racism the tools of corrupt politicians,failed demagogues to devolve this country back to the very reason millions of “legal” immigrants risked everything to experience the freedom to succeed and/or fail,to learn,to invent,to take risks that built the “miracle,the quality of life long gone!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeff.goggins.94 Jeff Goggins

    This is why we need term limits,this is why!

  • http://www.facebook.com/pmcconathy1 Phil McConathy

    That photo of Feinstein also was extremely scary and I believe if you look up the word ugly her picture will show up as an example.

  • Lynda Phelps

    feinstein truly is a deranged woman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/preston.jemmott Preston Jemmott

    Keep talking all you liberal gun control fanatics. By having no clue what you are talking about your are helping to strengthen our 2nd amendment

    • TaskForce16

      It’s not that they don’t have a clue as to what they are talking about, they know they are lieing through their teeth. Their deliberately chosen words and phrasiology are intended to enfluence their useful idiot voter base, that don’t know they’re lieing.

  • Norm

    Obama doesn’t seem to think it’s illegal to kill humans. Otherwise why does he need drones?

  • docpsych34

    Can’t wait for 2014 so we the people who want to keep the Constitution and the Second Amendment, can take back the Senate. Notice that these elites like Frankenfienstein exempted themselves from the Checks and Bans/ What a bunch of arrogant jerks.
    Never ever vote for a Democrat!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gaby.tyler Gaby Tyler

    i just wanna know where i can get that license to hunt humans and then walmart here i come…

  • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.oakley.5 Thomas Oakley

    Just a question: why do you people call her……senator……? she is not worthy of that word and little things like a cap on finestein or obama or boxer obr polozi indicate respect. SO if you are going to trash her (good for you) why in the next word respect her with a cap or senator?: I use very few caps in my posts, seems i do not like a lot of people (opps made another list I guess). Have a good day.

  • dad666

    Careful america, these idiots have a secondary agenda and they are using the lunacy of teh gun agenda feint to install a lesser but equally dangerous group of laws that will be one more step in the erosion of our rights and one more step in their quest to seize this country and convert it to a marxist, muslim nation. these Idiots are up to something that is not what is being shown to us on the surface of their publicized agenda. Either that or this is a diversion to take our attention away from the Bengazi Gate frauds and the implications for Obozzo.
    IMPEACH THIS MORON AND END THIS MADNESS

  • itsfun

    Feinstein says a criminal or drug dealer will have to stop and reload in a fight with police. She is assuming the criminals will be using weapons only approved by her. This shows how much of a dreamland she and other libs live in. Gee Senator, do you think maybe the criminals will be using illegal guns?

    She is the one that said no citizen should be driving full sized suv”s. When 2 Suburbans were discovered in her driveway, her response were they are in my husbands name, not mine. Voters in California elected her and Boxer and good ole Nancy. No wonder California is deep in debt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/loran.carlson Loran Carlson

    I think the people have the brains to figure out where these libs are coming from. The libs have definitely overreached as they always do when they are in power.

  • e111w

    I’ll save my comment by deferring to Spyder Dalton below. Spyder’s comments are about as spot on as can be!

    BUT – please remember this: Any attempt by any person or entity to violate or impinge upon the Second Amendment constitutes a willful and knowing violation of federal law. Such persons or entities should be immediately confronted with charge, arrest and indictment – preparatory to public trial.

    • Huapakechi

      Can we hope such persons attempt to resist arrest?

  • ONTIME

    OH NO moderated again for proposing commonsense…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000070916010 Craig Whitham

    The problem is one of viewpoint. the Anti-gunners are selling the position that EVERYONE is one bad day short of a psychotic break; this is reinforced daily, all you have to do is read any of the propaganda they send to their followers. Now, if you buy into that, then banning guns becomes legit; if I truly and honestly believed that my neighbor was a latent psychotic, I’d want to take his gun too. But it isn’t true, and the antigun leadership knows it; but they will never admit it because selling fear allows them to accrue political power.

  • Some call me…..Tim

    So…it now is legal or illegal to hunt human beings. I think I’ll go to my state game agency to see if I can get a game tag for one certain politician whose name I will not mention here. Don’t worry though, I promise to donate her meat to Hunters for the Hungry, But I doubt they’ll accept that meat for obvious reasons, that it tastes bad.

  • http://twitter.com/CJ2Professor Ed

    Oh it’s Fugly piece of garbage, scaed the he!! out of me, I’m going to print that and put in my garden to scare skunks away!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000284349148 Royce Willard

      Dang Ed lol, Good Idea, Send me some copies Brutha,

    • Michael Cole

      It may also kill your plants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1004466554 Sean Nagle

    It’s only legal to hunt humans in this country if you’re the president.

    • Joyful Song

      Or if you are with DHS or TSA or FEMA or foreign troops that the pres. wrote an executive order to allow himself to bring in …

  • Rickintheforest

    We here in California have managed to elect and re-elect time and time again two of the least qualified and least intellectually capable or honest U.S. Senators. Considering the qualifications and intellectual dishonesty of some other U.S. Senators that’s quite an achivement.

    • Richard Fuller

      What in the world is wrong with the Calif. electorate. This nutbag gets reelected time after time. Is there something wrong withe the water ????

      • Rickintheforest

        I dunno. It wasn’t this way when I moved here in 1963 but things have changed a lot since then. And not for the better I should add.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

          1963, California was a great state, but since then it has gone downhill.

    • http://www.facebook.com/cy.hotchkiss Cy Hotchkiss

      i didn’t vote for her

    • http://twitter.com/custommotorcycl Peter Furman

      There are No honest politicians as an honest person cannot get elected as long as it requires vast sums of money,deals with the thugs,the pariahs,the compulsive liars and the Demagogues who have /are the “king makers” making the entire electoral process corrupt!

    • http://twitter.com/Barbwire357 Barbara Ann Pyles

      Anyone running for office in the government should have to pass a “backgroung” check. today A lot of them would fail.

      • Huapakechi

        “o”boy did. Congress is still trying to ignore that fact.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.slinger.773 Richard Slinger

    nobody fucks that ugly bitch do they?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ken.draper Ken Alan Draper

    Feinstein= Assault politician

  • steven

    Kuntstein needs to have the grace to drop dead.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

      that is an insult to kunts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.bolek1 Bill Bolek

    What a bunch of hypocrites. It’s against the law for you “John Q. Public” to own that weapon even though you’re a law abiding citizen. I’m allowed because I’m a politician…

  • http://www.facebook.com/lstrabel1 Lee Strabel

    Frankenstein should have stayed in Frisco. She is an assault on peoples intelligence, and should be banned

    • Rickintheforest

      The sad fact is, when compared to Barbara Boxer, California’s other U.S. Senator, DiFi is an intellectual genius.

      • Huapakechi

        And worse are some of the Representatives like maxine waters.

        • Rickintheforest

          Maxine, unfortunately, is dumber than a box of rocks. She too continues to be re-elected by the idiots in her district

          • Huapakechi

            What’s the cause for that? Fungal spores, polluted water, strange chemicals in the air blowing in from China?

          • Rickintheforest

            The voters in her district are heavily black and no doubt getting much in the way of government assistance. It can’t have anything to do with the things she says. That’s for sure.

          • Huapakechi

            I will stay up here near Fargo. Our Winter weather seems to keep most of that sort away from here.

  • Spyder Dalton

    Are you more afraid of a Veteran with PTSD having a gun? Or a politician displaying signs of sociopathic malignant personality disorder that somehow managed to get her hands on a CCW? This is the same nutbag trying to take guns away from those of us that served to protect your rights to own one. No Veteran with PTSD has been involved in a mass shooting that I am aware of. They are usually spoiled brat liberal kids on anti-depressants.

    • Ray Burke

      Well said, Spyder !!! Thank you.

    • aeronca7acnc85057

      To the best of my knowledge none of my guns have ever shot anybody.
      I have not used a gun to shoot anybody sence Viet Nam in the sixties when ordered to by some of the same breed of politicraptions who now say I am to dangress to have a gun.
      Just one question. I have a black AR-7 simi auto, 22 cal.rifel with a pistal grip, and two 7 and one 15 round clips. Is that an assult weapon?

      • Huapakechi

        According to the “Free Dictionary”: An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm.

        Anything can be defined as a weapon, even a rolled up newspaper.

        So, just don’t point it at anybody and your rifle is NOT, by definition, an “assault weapon”.

        The term “assault weapon” was invented by liberals to confuse the issue in the minds of the uninformed.

        • dave

          Definitely one of the stupidest posts I’ve seen recently. You must be a Rush Limbaugh aficionado seeing how he labels anyone with a different viewpoint as “uninformed”. The bottom line is this: weapons capable of mowing down dozens of people a minute should not be legal in a civilized society.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

            Why not, Dave. Don’t you trust yourself not to go berserk/

            Besides, Dave the U.S. is not a civilized society.

          • Tony Follett

            Rush is right and you are wrong.Because the liberal media does focus on low info voters.

          • Scott

            No, dave, the bottom line is “shall not be infringed”. Neither you nor anyone else has the right to tell people that they cannot own AR-15 variants (what liberals call “assault weapons”)

          • Southern Xposure

            Whoa, back offa that assault keyboard there, Scott! ;) tic

          • Harold Patterson

            Hold on there Lefty. The Second amendment is there to protect the rights of the citizens of the U.S. That is the bottom line, not your opinion. This about government control of the people, not gun control.

          • dave

            So anyone that isn’t a proponent of unregulated rights to own guns is a “lefty”. What bullshit.

          • Grayzel

            Read your words son, “unregulated rights”! Just using those two words together is rather silly.

          • Huapakechi

            Dear dave seems to think that rights come without responsibility. He must be a product of “publik eddykashun”, totally unburdened by experience in the real world. Something like a “kolege perfesser”.

          • Harold Patterson

            The BS ball is in your court. Infringing on my rights under the Constitution to own firearms is a Left wing idea. How about we propose to take away your right to free speech? Would you like that? You can’t pick and choose which of the Amendments that you, personally, agree with and deny law abiding citizens their rights.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            In reality the 2nd Amendment can not even be amended, because Congress is not allowed to INFRINGE on it. It was designed to be indelible. Technically the first ten (Bill Of Rights) were adopted as a whole, so they can not pick and choose to amend any ONE of them at a time, They under rules of Order have to be accepted or rejected as they were adopted, in one piece.

          • http://www.facebook.com/ibpilot Vincent Smith

            The right to own and bear arms is a god given right not a govt allowed right the Govt has no right or authority to control guns!! They are already infringing the constitution by illegalizing machine guns. I should be able to own one if i want!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Norman-Hatfield/1735466398 Norman Hatfield

            Well, actually you CAN own a machine gun. You just need to get a $200 Class III license for each firearm. The rub is that back in the ’80′s the congress voted that there could be no NEW machines guns made after that date that could be sold to civilians. So the cheaper machine guns that sold for maybe 3-4 hundred back then now cost 3-4 THOUSAND and up. WAY UP! Like 15 to 20 thousand for a Thompson. So, yes, you still can get them. If you’re RICH. Same thing will happen with these new laws if they should pass. THEY will have ‘assault’ rifles. YOU won’t. This is exactly why our Founders wrote the Second Amendment.

          • Huapakechi

            Full auto is a great way to waste ammunition, unless ya have a mass of troops in the open.
            But they’re fun.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

            When asked if I’d object to my neighbor owning a functioning tank I replied “Sure, and he can shoot it too, I’m only interested in where the bullets land.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/jeff.aziz.5 Jeff Aziz

            Gun ownership is already very highly regulated. And by the way, murder is already illegal. How is that working out for you?

          • dave

            No it isn’t already regulated. Where are the licenses, the liability insurance, the title of ownership, etc? And by the way, Sarah, it’s not working out at all. Some of these weapons have no business on the street. For the same reason it’s not legal to own a hand grenade, these weapons should be illegal.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1251432689 Terry Sullivan

            We have rules on licenses. We have rules on who cannot own a gun: a felon, a person who was adjudicated as having mental incapacity (NOT the opinion of a DHS pencil pusher). We have rules that don’t allow convicted misdemeanor domestic violence offenders to own guns (and the military and law enforcement offenders are not allowed to ever have a gun again per the Lautenburg Amendment). We don’t allow minors to own guns. Gun ranges have a whole lot of rules. We have enough rules. The criminals of course don’t care, they don’t follow them anyway.

            As for your statement ” Some of these weapons have no business on the street.” I quite agree. Pity the criminals won’t listen to us. The rest of the law abiding citizens who own any of the so called “assault rifles” don’t use them on the street. The exception would be if we are fighting for our lives against a tyrannical government, which is why the second amendment was written anyway, written in the blood and tears of the first revolution against the British tyranny.

          • Southern Xposure

            Dave – Criminals should be illegal – oh, wait! …must need more laws to protect ourselves.

          • keepersleeper

            I feel your indignation!

          • Huapakechi

            Wash your hands afterwards.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.metzener Michael Metzener

            Where did you come up with unregulated? We have already agreed to common sense gun laws. We will not allow you or your ilk to take the right to semi-auto weapons. If you want to take any more of our gun rights it needs to be done with an amendment
            to the constitution.

          • http://www.facebook.com/dave.mathews.507 Dave Mathews

            Ok Davey, what will the sicko killers do when you’ve removed all traces of firearms ?? what pray tell will you ban then ???? You see this could go on forever, guns, bows, knives,clubs,rocks,small stones, and you still have the same problem sicko killers youve BANNED everything but THEM !!!! wake up!!

          • Huapakechi

            But we already have so many laws that it’s impossible to live and function without breaking the law.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

            RIGHTS are things you are born with, RIGHTS are IMMUNE to regulation, UNLESS you are a Democrat, liberal, progressive communist.

          • dave

            There are a lot of commies out there I’m told. Why the big leap? Are we being infiltrated?

          • sttngduck

            Even if dozens of assailants are attacking your family, house, and/or business, dave?

          • dave

            Fact of the matter is that “dozens of assailants” haven’t attacked me and they don’t. Where the fuck do you live?

          • Grayzel

            The Obama economy has not hit bottom yet.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lydiamaxinejohnston Lydia Maxine Johnston

            Dave, I believe the “dozens (or thousands) of assailents that most of the Conservative people in this nation are concerned about is the private army of “The Man Who Would Be Dictator!!”

          • Huapakechi

            That ‘one’ who declared he would have his own private army, as well trained and equipped as the U.S. Armed Forces?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            San Bernardino, and they DO have Gangs doing Home invasions en mass. So 5 rounds, or seven, will be NO GOOD.

          • Scott

            tell that to the Korean businessmen in South Central LA during the riots following verdicts handed down concerning the officers in the Rodney King beating…several of them defended their businesses (amidst MASS looting/rioting) with these so-called “assault rifles”. How’s that for an example? And look…I managed to make my point without expletives, dave.

          • Huapakechi

            In the same manner as union thugs, race rioters (also known as looters), and ‘move on’ zombies?

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.m.keohane Michael M. Keohane

            dave : Those types of weapons have been illegal since 1934 – where have you been living? They are called fully automatic weapons. Semi-automatic weapons cannot fire full automatic so they are not capable of mowing down dozens of people a minute. In fact, fully automatic weapons cannot mow down dozens of people aminute outside of a Hollywood sound stage or a special effects workshop. You are the perfect picture of the low (or no) information voter>

          • dave

            All you’re doing in mincing words. If I recall correctly, I was referring to recent events where several innocents were killed very quickly. If I recall correctly, there were a dozen defenseless people killed within minutes.

          • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.tully.12 Douglas Tully

            People die each day from drug overdoses. How are the drug bans working, Dave?
            You would disarm law abiding citizens. Feinstein’s law will do nothing to disarm criminals

          • dave

            So should we abandon all laws since criminals ignore them?

          • Harold Patterson

            No. But we should enforce the laws we have., not make new ones that punish law abiding citizens.

          • keepersleeper

            Dave: Take some time to read the Constitution and see what the document offers you as a citizen of these great United States…pay close attention to the 1st & 2nd Amendments!

          • Huapakechi

            ‘E’s a bit short on reading comprehension. Perhaps the Cliffs Notes version would be more appropriate for him.

          • dave

            Actually, I have read it very thoroughly and although it discusses the right to bear arms and form a “well-regulated” militia. No mention of “assault rifles” since they were still shooting with muskets at the time of writing.

          • http://www.facebook.com/doug.nicholson.56 Doug Nicholson

            When the 1st Amendment was written there was no TV or internet. Does that ban we should ban THEM?

          • Scott

            their muskets WERE their “assault riles” of the time. It’s the best they had. Today’s armed law-abiding citizen has the right to own the best of THIS time.

          • keepersleeper

            The 2nd Amendment doesn’t place any limitation or description on the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS! It’s simply inherent that arms are arms…PERIOD! Too bad people like you have NO CLUE as to the essence of the Constitution…you can’t make arbitrary interpretations, to fit the “feelings” of the day!

          • Huapakechi

            Hyperbole does not contribute to the discussion.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            No we should insist that laws be enforced. Such as No firearms for felons, if they violate LONG TERM PRISON. If they USE them the death Penalty, and we need to EXPEDITE the death penalty, thirty years of appeals is no deterrent, its free room, board, and medical for life. MOST Death row inmates die of natural causes before their sentences are carried out.

          • http://www.facebook.com/joe.dropulich Joe Dropulich

            I’m OK with the death penalty, but 30mm is way overkill. 22 LR in the brain pan will get er done.

          • Huapakechi

            Throw in a ‘final appeal’ questioning under sodium pentathol or one of the other ‘truth drugs’. Those that might be innocent will go for it.

          • Scott

            One thing’s for sure dave…we DEFINITELY don’t need any more “feel-good-but-do-no-good” laws!

          • bubba2020

            and there was no one to defend them, unless you count “gun free zone” signs. Apparently black ink on white paper stops bullets in your movie fantasy world.

          • dave

            Talk about movie fantasy world. How many mass murders have you seen averted by these so called “defenders”?

          • bubba2020

            Since you seem to not believe in defending yourself or other people, my concern is with the people who, like my law enforcement and military son-in-law for example, willingly risk their lives to defend people like yourself. That is incredibly unfair.
            But if you would like an example, the mall shooting in Portland last year was made much less than it could have been when a concealed carry citizen pull his gun, putting himself at risk. When the shooter saw that brave man pull out his handgun, the shooter went behind a column and shot himself. Yes, it could have been much worsel

          • dave

            Yes, that’s one instance. Kudos to Nick Meli for intervening. However, it’s really pitiful to have my position mischaracterized just because I don’t believe society is better off with everyone carrying assault rifles. Of course I’ll defend myself and believe everyone should have the right to defend themselves. But we also need to have some sane discussions when it comes to protecting our children and the public at large. I don’t think the answer is to have everyone packing heat.

          • bubba2020

            My semi-automatic is not an assault rifle, it is a self defense rifle. I have a small hammer for putting in nails to hang up pictures, but to my knowledge it has never assaulted anyone. I do not have an assault golf club, assault rolling pin, an assault mop handle, nor an assault baseball bat. As far as I know they are inanimate objects.

          • http://www.facebook.com/doug.nicholson.56 Doug Nicholson

            You sound like a reasonable, guy, Dave, but very few pro-gun people want to carry so-called “assault rifles” around with them. That being said, the Constitution spells out the God given right of citizens to protect themselves (from anything or anyone, including a tyrannical government) by carrying a firearm. As to protecting our schoolchildren, Wayne LaPierre said it best: “The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” How does it make sense to protect the President and other dignitaries, our money supply (armored cars), our gold supply (Ft. Knox) etc. using armed security but to “protect” our kids at school with a “Gun Free Zone” sign? That’s stupidity!

          • Huapakechi

            Define “assault rifle”. Do you mean full auto capable, or just black and ugly?

            What kind of person carries any kind of rifle everywhere?
            What will you ‘defend’ yourself with?
            We’ve already seen the results of your ‘sane discussions’ in the gun free zones “protecting” our children and the public at large. If responsible citizens aren’t ‘packing heat’, everybody at the scene of a mass shooting only has to avoid being shot for the 20 or 30 minutes it takes for LEO to show up and formulate an entry and neutralization plan.

          • http://www.facebook.com/doug.nicholson.56 Doug Nicholson

            It’s extremely difficult for anyone to prove a negative like that. Can you prove how many mass murders have been prevented by “Gun Free Zone” signs? I thought not.

          • Huapakechi

            When an armed citizen intervenes, it does not become a mass murder scenario.

          • dave

            Charles Bronson just never steps in to save the day is the problem

          • Huapakechi

            With upwards of 2 1/2 million incidents of violent crime averted by armed citizens every year, who needs Bronson? Look the facts up for yourself.

          • sttngduck

            Key word there is “defenseless” What caused all those people to be defenseless? Could it be a law forbidding the adults from being armed? And did that law stop the insane gunman from being armed in that area?

          • Huapakechi

            And how quickly did the police arrive to outline the bodies and mark the empty brass?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            The key word is defenseless, you want to make EVERY citizen defenseless. IF the “gun-free” zones have not been designated the perps would be less likely to choose defenseless people to target, and if CCW persons were there , who knows perhaps ONE OF THEM could have stopped the perp before he killed as many as he did. Disarming everyone BUT the criminals is not the answer to mass shootings, it is the CAUSE of them.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1057956879 Allan Hamilton

            Actually Michael, the facts are split in your example. Don’t get me wrong…I’m a staunch 2nd amendment supporter but I’ve seen a demonstration that compared a fully automatic weapon with 30 rounds (illegal in all states since 1934 like you’ve said) and a semi-auto rifle with a 30 round magazine. 10 seconds to discharge the magazines at analogous human shaped targets with head and chest trauma indicators. The automatic firearm using the “spray and pray” method yielded far fewer kills than the semi-auto firing single shots with precise targeting. Something like 4 casualties for the auto and 12 for the semi. It surprised me no end having been fooled by Hollywood myself.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000871028602 Ron Crafton

            A full automatic weapon is not illegal to own in the USA. It is highly regulated in that to have one, you have to pay a yearly tax and you must be willing to open your house to inspection by the BATF anytime they request it. It is called a class 3 FFL License.

          • Huapakechi

            I prefer a pump action rifle and shotgun simply because so many more factors can cause the semi-auto to jam or malfunction.

          • 1984isnow

            WRONG! Sorry, but fully automatic weapons are not illegal in all states. They are highly regulated. There are only 9 states that prohibit them. They are of very limited ability and a typical M16 type weapon in full auto will set you back about $15000. There is some paper work and fees, but if you have the money, qualify for firearm ownership and don’t live in an area were they are prohibited, you can legally purchase and possess a full auto weapon.

            In regards to fire control, the USMC and probably the army went to weapons that fire 3 or 4 round bursts rather than full auto, spray and pray was a waste of ammo and inefficient at killing. After the first few rounds not likely to be on target

          • Huapakechi

            Correct as far as it goes. There are even more federal limitations, and some states ban private ownership entirely.

            As a private citizen you cannot own any domestically manufactured
            machine gun that was manufactured after May, 1986. What many people do not realized is that if the machine gun is an import that was manufactured in another country (which the P90 is) then it cannot be owned by a private citizen unless it was imported prior to 1968.

          • osteomed

            Dave, once again, it is not the semi-automatic weapon (a car) that kills people, but the madman (or drunk driver) in possesion of such a weapon (or driving drunk). The gov should never have made semi-automatics illegal in the 1st place…a blatent infringment on our 2nd amedment. But they have and it was never really enforced. We have enough laws in the books that is a clear infringment on our 2nd amendment but is never really enforced.
            And besides, the US citizen isn’t a marksman. The Newark NJ po lice officer, is however, trained to be very efficient, w/ their firearms, to the level of marksman status, but when confronted in the field during a shoot out w/ a criminal, their target is struck by their (the police officer’s bullet) 7% of the time!! And they’re trained to be much more efficient, but the gov will have you believe that real talented gunsman is the US citizen, who never has any formal training in the use of their firearms.

          • Huapakechi

            Not to be denigrating NJ cops, but the hunter up this way who uses more than two rounds to take a deer is laughed out of camp. The kindest criticism I’ve heard is “Forget to take the lens caps off?” We shoot hundreds of pistol and rifle rounds a year and a truck load of shotgun shells, just to keep in practice. Stats I have read recently have LEOs shooting innocents at a rate 11 times that of armed citizens. This may be due to “magazine dump” shooting tactics.

          • 1984isnow

            Police shooting and hitting 7% seems to be a lack of fire control and discipline. I’ve read about it in NY, 8 cops fire 95 rounds subject hit twice. This is just poor work on the part of the police and their training. I saw it with Marines in VN, in the heat of the moment the adrenalin is pumping and it becomes spray and pray time. Good officers and NCOs eliminate that behavior, not good to run out of ammo in bush. Police need to exercise better fire discipline. To say the US citizen is not a marksman is just an ignorant thing to say. I am a marksman and there are millions of others. We practice, and probably have better fire discipline because we pay for our own ammo.

          • http://www.facebook.com/dave.mathews.507 Dave Mathews

            we just had a police shoot out here in springfeld,mo with one criminal on his front porch. According to the news, and they made sure we knew, 136 rounds were fired in total. Then they reported i the same breath the criminal was hit and killed by 3 shots !!!!!! Where did all the cops rounds dissapear to ???? makes me wonder. Any time i have a problem i NEVER call poilce, their presence makes it worse.!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            “low Info Voter” is a euphemism, call it what it is “Willfully Ignorant”. Ignorance can be cured by education stubbornness and stupidity add up to an incurable condition. You can treat the symptoms, but stupidity is a terminal condition.

          • Grayzel

            Then we better ban trucks and cars.

          • dave

            Another ridiculous argument.

          • Grayzel

            “weapons capable of mowing down dozens of people a minute should not be legal in a civilized society.” Dave

            Explain how a car or a truck cannot mow down dozens of people in less than a minute?

          • dave

            Grayzel, Yeah, sure. We read about it every day. Cars driving through malls, theaters and classrooms to kill people. I see your point, pinhead.

          • Grayzel

            Does Oklahoma city ring a bell in your head? How about in Israel? Need I go on?

          • 1984isnow

            in 1927 the worst school massacre occurred with 45 dead. No guns involved, the guy used dynamite. Twin towers, pentagon, killed thousands, no guns involved. In LA a car drove through an outdoor shopping area killing a bunch of people and a truck jumping the curb in NYC killing 6 or so people. In NYC 49% of traffic fatalities are pedestrians.

          • Scott

            guess what dave…mass murders have averaged 20/year for well over a decade now…so it’s not like they’re a daily occurrence either.

          • osteomed

            Grazel, the government’s means for stopping murder committed by firearms in the US, holds as much logic as trying to control the number of deaths caused by drunk drivers, by eliminating motor vehicals in the US…
            There are other means of trying to control murder by gun; the best would be to make sure the mentally insane are cared for properly and to educate their caregivers accordingly. Simple and has common sense, but this is not their motive (plane to see).
            No, lets demonize an inanimate object (same as a drunk driver’s car) as the cause of their death, so we can gain control of an armed population! So, by the same reasoning, why not make a movement to illegalize and confiscate all the motor vehicals in the US, to save the lives of those who die by means of the drunk driver? Drunk drivers by the way, kill 7-10 times as many people as those who die from firearms!!

          • Huapakechi

            Ya mean like these incidents in San Diego, North Carolina, Jerusalem, New York, Dulles airport, Wichita Kansas?

            Vehicular Jihad
            http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/06/vehicular-jihad-kansas-muslim-drives-for-three-miles-with-dead-man-on-roof-of-van.html
            Hassan Daly, a 52-year-old described as a “devout Muslim,” plowed his cab into a crowd on a sidewalk in San Diego, injuring over 24 people. Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar explicitly grounded his hit-and-run in the teachings of the Koran. Munir Muthana told the police who arrested him that “the Muslims will fix this country.” Omeed Aziz Popal, we were told, was suffering from stress from an arranged marriage. Ismail Yassin Mohamed, we were informed, was mentally ill, suffered from depression, and hadn’t being taking his medication. And Muhammad Teshale, according to “law enforcement officials,” “did it to be famous.”
            Spencer queried here, “Coincidence or jihad? Certainly there are a lot of hit-and-run and incidents involving people hit by cars that have nothing to do with Muslims, but in the cases listed here there is a degree of intentionality in these that we do not usually see.”

            Hmmmmm.

          • osteomed

            This reply is intended for Dave and Grayzel; If either of you really cared, the number one form of committing murder in the US, remains by hammers and clubs and far outways all other forms of murder, COMBINED, according to the FBI 2012, crime statistics.
            So where is all the insanity w/ murder by firearm coming from?
            Unfortunately, you and others of your ilk, have been fooled by a US government intent on re-writting our 2nd Amendment, and have been for quite some time. The 2nd Amendment was written by men who’ve endured tyranny by the British government and had the intellegence to write the 2nd Amendment to help protect the US citizens from being taken over by their own gov, w/out a means to fight back and protect ourselves and our families.
            But our own gov has been dumbing down our childrens “public” education so each one of these unsuspecting students, goes thru their schooling never learning about our courageous Forefathers, and what they endured in ole’ Britain and in the New America.
            PC, is another means of accomplishing their motives, but we’ll leave that lesson for another day.

          • sttngduck

            What do you tell your daughter or wife or mom after the person (or people) who broke into your house rape them? “Whew it’ s a good thing we didn’t’ t have a gun. Someone could have been killed.” That’ll be just great, won’t it dave?

          • dave

            How did we jump from a discussion about weapons that shouldn’t be on the street versus me being defenseless? I didn’t see anything in my post to suggest I couldn’t wouldn’t defend my self (even with a gun).

          • http://www.facebook.com/joe.dropulich Joe Dropulich

            Dave how about you live your life and I’ll live mine, But if you really want to save human lives, maybe you should think about hopping on the ban abortion band wagon.

          • dave

            I’m concerned with the “born”.

          • http://www.facebook.com/joe.dropulich Joe Dropulich

            Figures.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            Yes the yet to be born have an open season, it lasts about six months. The MOST defenseless are simply to be erased for the convenience of the Mother, who COULD have prevented the pregnancy. And how about those loons who claim those who came into the world surgically have no rights because they were not “Born” normally through the birth canal? Apparently they think a Cesarian Section is a reason to deny people legal identity as living.

          • 1984isnow

            It seems I remember Senator Obama supporting post natal or postpartum abortion also known as infanticide. Technically I think they are born. Also there are a number of “liberal” professors that argue that infanticide in just a delayed abortion. I think this is what they call a slippery slope.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lydiamaxinejohnston Lydia Maxine Johnston

            Hooray!! Joe. Millions murdered every year and that is just fine with the Libs. They are throwing a fit about a proposed law saying a fetus is a person as soon as the heart beat can be detected!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000871028602 Ron Crafton

            My thoughts exactly. These people are all so concerned about the recent high profile killings. I wonder where they stand with respect to the millions of children that have been killed since our government made it illegal to have an abortion. And Dave, God is concerned with the unborn murdered you idiot!

          • Huapakechi

            You would advocate the weapons be kept in a room specified by the license, secured in a locked safe, disassembled and separate from the ammunition as some municipalities require?

          • http://www.facebook.com/ibpilot Vincent Smith

            “assult” weapons are just the beginning, the handgun will be next. and by the time my grandkids are adults they will be, unarmed, indenturred servants to a totalitarian state. thats what this is about not saving kids!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/joe.dropulich Joe Dropulich

            Don’t worry Vincent, your grandchildren and mine will have all of the freedoms that we all have had all of our lives. Ya know why I say that? Because myself and a couple million or more like me are willing and ready to give our lives, or take the lives of any SOB’s that would try to take our freedoms and rights away.

          • http://www.facebook.com/marlene.eshelmanlippert Marlene Eshelman Lippert

            So make these weapons illegal to law biding citizens… THAT will help our “civilized society”????? The MAIN point here IS… CRIMINALS do NOT obey LAWS… so taking weapons away from law biding citizens will again NOT stop gun violence… only make the law biding citizens better targets for the criminals… and I agree with Scott… “Shall not be infringed”!!!!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/lydiamaxinejohnston Lydia Maxine Johnston

            Some idiot Hollywood Democrat woman the other day said, “Women don’t need guns to protect themselves against rapist, Just tell men not to rape anymore.” Now that was an intelligent statement!! NOT!!

          • Huapakechi

            England, and Australia are prime examples of what happens with that strategy.

          • http://www.facebook.com/douglas.tully.12 Douglas Tully

            When will you be turning in your car, Dave? It is “capable of mowing down dozens of people in a minute”!

          • Grayzel

            Dave has obviously not thought his words out in a rational way.

          • dave

            Turning in my car? What a ridiculous question!

          • Scott

            My “assault rifles” haven’t killed anyone and will NEVER kill anyone for any reason other than FORCED self-defense..so it’s just as ridiculous to tell me that I shouldn’t own them…not to mention unconstitutional.

          • normlbiker

            then outlaw cars and alcohol… by your own words…

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stan-Broniszewski/1375803414 Stan Broniszewski

            Rush is great, but he kisses the butts of the Established Republicans. He kissed Mitt Romney’s keester in the elections rather than go with Ron Paul – a TRUE American.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1057956879 Allan Hamilton

            No Stan, he didn’t kiss Romney’s butt. You don’t listen to Rush so why make stuff up? Oh wait, you’re a Paulbot needing that daily dose of fantasy to keep it stiff huh?

          • http://twitter.com/4GivenGirlx7 Linda Center

            Hey dave, go ahead and move out of the country.

          • dave

            D’oh. Go ahead and move out of the country? Why?

          • Scott

            because you’d obviously be happier in a country run by an oppressive government, since you seem to prefer that over freedom.

          • Huapakechi

            You enjoy the protection of citizens willing to take up arms, while denigrating them and advocating they be disarmed.

          • dave

            I enjoy laughing at people that think they must carry an arsenal to make it through their daily lives and think they somehow benefit this country through their mere presence. They dream they will someday step in and be a hero.. Just a Bunch of simpletons.

          • Huapakechi

            Arsenal? One weapon does not meet that definition. Few if any citizens carry more, but go ahead and laugh all you want. You’ll never know who might be carrying a weapon until they decide it is necessary to use it. That’s the whole point of concealed carry.

            Dreams? Few if any citizens fantasize about ‘saving the day’, but we do watch the news and read newspapers, and we are aware that evil people do exist and choose to be prepared. I carry a handgun for the same reason I have fire extinguishers. If the occasion arises when I have need of either, I’ll not wish I hadn’t left ‘em at home.

          • dave

            I don’t “enjoy” the protection of little wannabe “John Waynes”. I haven’t denigrated them either other than to say assault rifles are unnecessary.

          • Huapakechi

            Define ‘assault rifle’

          • http://www.facebook.com/robert.jones.522 Robert Jones

            That depends on how fast you can pull the trigger, unless you have a machine gun. MY GOD PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!

          • osteomed

            And Dave, by this post you’re proving your own liberalism. Because, in the many debates I’ve had w/ Dems, liberals etc they always seem to resort to name calling or the use of profanity.
            But I see this as their utter despair in the debate, caused by their own uninformed nature of the topic or their lack of ability to communicate their stance or opinion.
            But to your own hope and excuse… Their is no real sane way of arduing your point of view when you take an uninformed slant at a topic that is plane as day. There really is no arguing the 2nd amendment (if you really know how it was written) or, you don’t know your American History, which the vast majority of you don’t.
            And so you and your lefty buddies are willing to repeat that disgraceful history, all over again.
            But thank God, for ppl like us

          • osteomed

            …who continue to debate your almost unamerican logic, and for ppl like our military who swear an oath to protect our Constitution, and are willing to make the ultimate sacrife, so ppl like you can continue to speak like this, it is your right.
            But how about the American Politician who takes the same exact oath but continues to shred and tear it apart? Should they be brought up on charges of treason, as the Constitution orders by its law?

          • Huapakechi

            *”But how about the American Politician who takes the same exact oath but
            continues to shred and tear it apart? Should they be brought up on
            charges of treason, as the Constitution orders by its law?”

            Works for me.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000871028602 Ron Crafton

            I am a firm believer that undermining the Constitution should be punished as treason and the guilty should be hanged by the neck till dead, dead, dead, including the POTUS if found guilty.

          • dave

            I’m much more informed than you’ll ever know. As if any argument would persuade you.

          • Huapakechi

            Well, we have your word for that, and the arguments you’ve presented, for evidence of your impacted ignorance.

          • poetlaryat@yahoo.com

            Hmmmm…… How can a semi-automatic firearm ‘mow’ down dozens of people a minute??
            Perhaps one could do so with a machinegun (that’s full auto/burst capable), but those items have been banned from ownership by the common citizen since about the early part of the last century and CAN NOT be bought by the regular citizen from a gun store. To buy such weapons requires extensive back ground checks and large fees from the BATF. Other so called ‘assault weapons’ such as claymnore mines, grenades, mortars, etc. are also banned from common ownership.
            Being black, ugly, having a vertical pistol grip and a large capacity magazine does NOT make my firearms ‘assault weapons’. I can assault you with a baseball bat, my ball point pen, my credit card or my shoe but that does NOT make them ‘assault weapons’. It would be my USE of them that would result in an assault. NOT the instrument used.
            Semper Fidelis
            U.S. Marine Corps Retired
            Sheriffs Deputy Retired

          • 1984isnow

            As I stated elsewhere, fully auto weapons are legal in 41 of the fifty states. If you can buy a gun and you have 15,000 and up to spend you can legally buy a machine gun. They are out there but you never hear of them involved in crime in US because most criminals can’t afford to own them or pass the background check. Class 3 firearms license allows the manufactured, modifying and selling of full auto weapons and silencers.
            SF
            USMCRet
            School Teacher Retired

          • Huapakechi

            I’ve never been attacked because I was “too well armed”. I have been attacked when I was unarmed, but they learned I fight dirty.

          • Huapakechi

            Well, ya jump right in with the denigration and deflection. Am I supposed to whimper and cower simply because YOU happen to believe that the Second Amendment is archaic and obsolete? I’ve got a hot flash for you: Guns capable of ‘mowing down’ dozens of people have been around since the beginning of the last century. Our beneficent federal government decided we did not need fully automatic weapons made possession illegal (unless you happened to be very well off at the time) and charged a tax on them. This was the excuse the federales used to burn 82 men, women, and children to death at Waco. Did they find unregistered automatic weapons when they sifted the ashes?

            When you throw out “should not be legal in a civilized society”, I have to wonder what other limitations you would foist on LAW ABIDING citizens, since those who do not obey the laws will not be inconvenienced, leaving those who obey the law at an extreme disadvantage.

            Look around you, fool! More people are killed by ‘blunt instruments’ than ‘assault weapons’. Our own federal government under the current administration ignores the law as it pleases.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000871028602 Ron Crafton

            For you to suggest that we should not have a legal right to have weapons like this is perhaps the stupidest post ever ‘comrade.’ I am glad people of your ilk were not around when this country was formed. You are an idiot of the highest caliber.

          • dave

            And what does that make you, a BB gun?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            Weapons EQUAL to those possessed by the Government, or any foreign entity which MIGHT invade, or attack the citizenry, is exactly what the Second Amendment references. The PURPOSE of the 2nd Amendment is to enable the population to take government back and restore it. Its not about hunting, or sport shooting, its about RESISTING TYRANNY, and DEFENSE. The Original Militia Act of 1797 spelled it out. The Militia is a concept that every able-bodied citizen has a right and responsibility to be a first responder when the Freedoms and Liberties are threatened. Each citizen was REQUIRED to own a weapon and the accessories and stand ready to immediately defend their locality. They rescinded the act when the Constitution went into effect, and the War of 1812 showed that a standing army was necessary. But a Standing Army, the Police and even the Sheriff can not be everywhere, and thus the responsibility lands on the individual to act until REGULATED forces can arrive. (regulated means under a rule structure). The original Militia was regularly trained and ready to respond to ANY threat.

          • Scott

            Actually,Jeffery: “The phrase “well-regulated” was in common use long before 1789,
            and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of
            something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was
            calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight
            of the people’s arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd
            amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the
            founders wrote it.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/ibpilot Vincent Smith

            where is the civilized society??? I know you dont mean America!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Wiley/668664433 Joe Wiley

            so tell me dave why is it then they also want to ban any shot gun capable of haveing an extended magazine these have nothing to do with mowing down hundreds of people maybe you should do some research and find out all of the other guns they want to ban some of those shotguns are pump not semi auto please explain that oh never mind you just want to be one of the sheeple that follows what ever the media tells you I bet you still think there was an ar 15 used at sandyhook if you do you are truly uninformed sir and that has nothing to do with rush

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Herke/1725428333 David Herke

            well Dave that means we need to get all those left wing bastards that think there a politician and lock them up as they are deadly weapons and they have ordered young men and women to kill humans because they think different then they do. Like Obama is doing

          • http://www.facebook.com/dave.mathews.507 Dave Mathews

            You better start walking and give up that suv your driving. You could turn psycho and run down 15 or 20 people before you run into the river, therefore taking your own life !!!!!! Therefore suvs’ should not be legal in a civilized society!! and BTW, who are you to determine what is civilized and what isn’t ???

        • bubba2020

          Mine is a self defense weapon because that is the only way it will ever be used. IF I ever “assaulted” anyone with it, then I would be a “criminal.” There are hundreds of laws that already deal with that. Simple, huh? It only needs to get complicated if you are a member of the political species.

          • http://twitter.com/4GivenGirlx7 Linda Center

            So right! If I ever assaulted anyone, it would be in self defense.

          • bubba2020

            If I ever defended myself or another person from an attacker who was using a dangerous weapon, it would be in self defense. The attacker would be the “assaulter” and I would be the defender. Can’t make it any simpler for you.

          • Huapakechi

            Be sure to ‘mark ‘em for future identification’ when ya do. Can’t have ‘em running around loose and thinking they got away free. If they live.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            Self defense isn’t “assault” its self defense. Assault is a criminal act of aggression, self defense is a act of self preservation.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-J-Goetz/100000220315231 David J. Goetz

            Its not complicated at all for “Them” it is what “They” have intended from the Start…To disarm everyone and impose Socialism on Our Country !!! “They want “subjects” to rule NOT Citizens who are Prepared and able to Defend Our Nation !!!

        • osteomed

          As they usually do, Huapakechi, w/ the English language!! it becomes their own crazy secrete code that only the left/far left and Progressive Ameican citizen believes.
          Proving once again, “stupid is as stupid does.”

          • Grayzel

            Oste, “the left/far left and Progressive American citizen” Is that not a little redundant? They all seem the same to me!

          • osteomed

            Is that your touche, Grayzel? I have, or more accurately, had friends in all 3 camps, and believe me, there is a difference in all 3. The only similarity I see w/ any of them is, the Progressive and the far left… These ppl will never see the light and so there is no touching them.
            However, it is those who lable themselves as being on the Left, that can still be reasoned w/ and those are the ppl who can be worked w/ and saved. Because it is a disease of the liberal mind, Grayzel.

          • Grayzel

            I sort of agree but then you are suggesting those on the left have only a portion of the illness?

          • Huapakechi

            Or the disease is not fully manifested.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001110266273 Mary Ellen Lucas

            I agree, the far left and the progressives are so brainwashed that they no longer have the ability to determine the difference between right and wrong. It’s like they have no feelings and are numb to the reality of how life should be lived. Live and let live.

          • osteomed

            Mary, what was meant by my comment above (and I know you relate to it) is that when someone becomes so entrenched in their beliefs of Progressivism (which by the way was a term invented by certain high level politicians, to mean Communism. Because there was a Communist Party USA, but knowing the vast American citizen would never latch on to that, they reinvented the term as being a Progessive; some thing that many of us would feel more warm to [who doesn't want to progress at what we do])
            They ultimately eliminated the Communist party and replaced it w/ the American Socialist party.
            But remember how Hilary Clinton described herself and her ideations, when asked in the 08 campaign, how she describe herself and her political ideations. She replied, “I would lable myself as being a Progressive”, proving to me that this woman is more dangerous to this country than Barrack Obama, could ever be.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            Progressiveness is defined as a PROCESS to move your agenda closer by increments. You get the conservatives to COMPROMISE, or simply give up some of their position in favor of moving toward yours. You as a Progressive accept this move as PROGRESS toward socialism. You know that although you didn’t get EVERYTHING in one bite, you can move to a new area and seek compromise there, and then LATER revisit the first for further compromises. Essentially the process “walks” conservatives easily into socialism one small compromise at a time.

          • Huapakechi

            Negotiating with a liberal is incremental surrender.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

            And so, the U.S. citizens have surrendered their rights piecemeal to the state in exchange for placebo government benefits.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

            Psychologically the left end of the political spectrum have a need to dominate, and rule. it goes hand in hand with Megalomania. They want to make all the MICRO-decisions and take that “option” away from the citizen, they want regulated society and every one in compliance. 1984 was a view of the Social Utopia. and Believe me the far left end would be VERY pleased to see it.

          • Huapakechi

            The difference is the number of layers of paint covering the socialist in ‘em.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

            To be descriptive you have to say democrat, liberal, progressive, communist, and yes, TODAY they ALL have the same definition.

          • Huapakechi

            They delight in redefinition of existing words and terms as well.

          • osteomed

            Truth of the story is, they all feel we are sheep, not concerned w/ or incapable of understanding our government and what it is the are deceitfully doing w/ the job we gave to all.
            WE NEED TERM LIMITS TO BE REINSITUTED!! How did we ever let them get away w/ changing that law so they can all waste and get rich on our hard earned tax dollar?
            WE NEED TO REINSTITUTE TERM LIMITS!!!

          • Robert

            Totally agree. No career politicians. No golden parachute insurance. They get what we are forced to get,nothing better. And no $100,000 a year for pensions. What do they think they are Union or something????

          • osteomed

            Robert, these politicians have created the new “American Royalty” in our country. The same s— keeps playing out year after year after year… Nothing meaningful ever gets done, yet the same players keep returning to D.C.

        • AD

          My rifle attacks paper with little circles printed on them with great prejudice. It’s a printed target’s worst nightmare! Also has been known to knock down bowling pins and tin cans.

          • Huapakechi

            Bowling balls are great targets too. Screw in an eyebolt and hang ‘em at a convenient level. Anything bigger than a .22 will make ‘em jump. If ya like to see things explode, use plastic milk jugs full of water. Nabisco Vanilla Wafers don’t even need to be picked up after target practice.

        • fidoes

          Fact is they are the criminals,trying to make law abiding citizens out to be criminals…they have violated their oath of office,and this woman who calls herself a senator is certifiable.

          • Huapakechi

            Flush ‘em!

          • osteomed

            As are most of the Institutional politicians, fidoes. Truth of the matter is, they feel they are way above the ppl who gave them their jobs in the 1st place (as we saw during the Obamacare fiasco where they refused to accept the same gov Health Ins as they were raming down our throats) but as long as they keep flushing their districts back at home w/ Federal money or intertaining the special interest groups, their electorate is satisfied and keeps giving these “extended welfare recipiants”, their job back.
            Fidoes, when the politician is corrupted, the solution is to replace them… But when the electorate becomes inmoral and deranged (as the public education system makes them) void of all common sense, the road is tough to hoe and at 1st glance, seems an impossible task.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lydiamaxinejohnston Lydia Maxine Johnston

          Apparently, a pop-tart can be considered an assault weapon. You may have heard of the 6 or 7 year old that recently ate part of his pop-tart in the school lunch room, leaving the remainder in the rough “shape of a gun”, then held it out from him In “a threatening gesture”, (according to the teacher) and was expelled! Really!! Threatening people with an assault pop-tart!!!

          • Huapakechi

            The school authorities are using the tactics of intimidation, in the same way that a HS student here was suspended when she used her father’s pickup because her car wouldn’t start. A teacher patrolling the parking lot saw a fired and smashed shotgun shell in the bed of the truck which had been there through several loads of firewood. Needless to say there was quite an angry confrontation at the next school board meeting.

        • http://www.facebook.com/fossdavid David M Foss

          HAHAHA..YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! EVEN A CELL PHONE. WOW THEY JUST NEED TO LOCK US UP BEFORE WE HURT OURSELVES!!!!

          • Huapakechi

            I think that is their intent.

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

            Soon our boarder will exist to KEEP US IN.

          • Huapakechi

            That I seriously doubt. Even TEOTWAWKI will have us in better condition than Mexico.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003391401732 Jonathan Lynch

          Fienstein realized the term “assault weapon” was not going over very well with the gun community,so she had it changed to “personal defense weapon”. And that is what the government is now calling their rifles…where they purchased 7,000 PDW’s.I’m sure it will change again to suit wharever needs she wants it to mean or be called until she succeeds or(and this is my favorite)she dies trying!

          • Huapakechi

            If fienstein and co. are calling ‘em “personal defense weapons” now, does that mean that all little black rifles are now free from the appellation “assault rifle” or does this mean that the same rifle is termed differently when it’s owned by a citizen?

          • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

            The government “enforcement, protection and security” agents are now as well armed as the infantry.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

        according to the liberals, yep it is.

      • schr8er

        According to ALL accounts NO… an “ASSAULT WEAPON” is one that had three positions on the selector switch 1) SAFE 2) SEMI AUTOMATION and 3 ) FULLY AUTOMATIC… The gun you have is either safe or semi-automatic.. you can NOT hold the trigger back and empty the magazine ( not CLIP like they say either )… They have NO idea what they are talking about and only do it for shock factor, like we are going to go out and mow down people, shoot down planes ( which they also said the guns could do ) and create a killing zone a hundred yards across. ALL SCARE tactics…. Its a real shame that they dont get at least ONE person that knows what they are talking about in their midst….

        • Huapakechi

          They deliberately avoid including anyone that knows anything about guns.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

          A clip is a loading strip, for an internal magazine. Or used to load magazines for some weapons, like the AR-15. “Clips” come with ten rounds capacity, usually, the magazine is what feeds a round to the firing chamber. SOME are detachable.

          • http://www.facebook.com/doug.nicholson.56 Doug Nicholson

            The correct definition of “clip” and “magazine”: a magazine uses a spring to move the rounds into the firing chamber. A clip has no spring.

      • colsooonscoorner

        Probably, according to Di-Fi, she;s a bit looney ‘course babs boxer & schumer have their own little ditties.

        I honor all those people that serve in the military, this bunch of Dems are the dangerous. They are psycho

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001110266273 Mary Ellen Lucas

        Screw her, don’t give it up! We still have the Constitution. She is breacking the second amendment and she is a traitor.

      • 1984isnow

        Interesting, when homeland security ordered M16, fully capable of full automatic fire, they called them personal defense weapons. I also have not shot anybody sense Vietnam. I never would except in self defense from a real threat to my life or liberty.

        • Huapakechi

          That’s coming closer to happening every day.

          • 1984isnow

            hope not.

      • bob

        Duh, under the Fienstien bill. No pistol grips or magizines over 10 rounds. Homeland Security calls returning vets the greatest threat to our country. Really! PDST will be a reason to put vets in a nut house & denie gun ownership.

        • aeronca7acnc85057

          Sorry Bob I was just trying to be funny with the assult weapon question

    • http://www.facebook.com/loran.carlson Loran Carlson

      Mr. Spyder,
      I’m more afraid of who is going to be calling the shots on who is not in their right mind to own a firearm. Who is going to be given this responsibility for these decisions?

    • http://www.facebook.com/Leibe42 Lee Workman

      Excellent reply, Spyder. I re-posted it on my face book page. I wish I was as articulate as you are.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sunidays Renee’ Parker

      Amen !!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000284349148 Royce Willard

      We hear ya, and thank you Sir. Now we are fighting to protect yours.

    • william C

      She is a demented shrill screeching flakebrain whose blatherings are beginning to alienate even many of her gun ban supporters. And I have posted numerous times about her hypocrisy, having a CCW. I don’t know what weapon she carries, but I would be she will exempt herself from the limited magazine rounds.

    • osteomed

      Or Spyder, and more likely, they are spoiled brat liberal kids, who are not taking their antidepressant meds or antipsychotic meds, or who are not being dosed correctly on their prescribed medications… We need to dig a little deeper to make that claim, Spyder.
      The Nutbag who supposedly shot up those kids at Sandy Hook, was purposely kept out of Psych hospitals and should’ve rightfully been Institutionalized, however, momma nutbag, kept him out of the Physicians care and from being Institutionalized.
      But, it far easier for the layman, to demonize the medications these madmen were supposidly on… Or not on.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stan-Broniszewski/1375803414 Stan Broniszewski

      I grew up with a Daisy BB gun. Owned a Remington 870 Express 12 gauge pump action shotgun. Owned a Waffenfabrik 9 mm, a S&W .38 snub nose revolver, even a Marlin .22 bolt action long rifle. I will NEVER register them. Why bother? The FBI & State Troopers gave me the o.k. – good enough.

    • keepersleeper

      Right on all points, Spyder!

    • fidoes

      These politicians should be embarrassed in public about the fact they took an oath to uphold the rights of the American people and protect the constitution of the united states,she for one has violated her oath and should be run out of office by every legal means there is.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

      Veterans in general are more RULES governed than those who haven’t experienced military discipline. Simply they have the TRAINING to operate a weapon safely, and they have the experiences of what happens at the trajectory end-point. Am I scared of any VET having a weapon? No I am not.

      Am I scared of Feinstein and Boxer having a weapon, YES I am.

      You will find that MOST congressmen including the Senators have CCWs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/daniel.mcdonough.94 Daniel Mcdonough

      politician

    • Gary Mayo

      Great comment Spyder. Thanks for your input.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Herke/1725428333 David Herke

      Yes well said Spyder

    • http://www.facebook.com/fossdavid David M Foss

      GOT THAT RIGHT!!

    • joshuasweet

      What bothers me most is how they take an oath of office to preserve and defend the Constitution yet act counter to the rights given us by the founding fathers as if they are above the laws of the Nation as their word is suspect thus they are are as well suspect of their allegiances to our Nation and their constituents

  • Spiritofthebayonet

    Meanwhile Napolitano has bids out for 7000 AR-15s and the 1.6 billion rounds of 9mm and.40 cal, she has bought with tax-payer funds are hollow point, which are illegal for the US military to possess.

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.soro.3 Anthony Soro

      right only law enforcement can use H.P. thats always been the case, In combat there is a reason for fmj or FMJ-AP rds only can be used by a Nato country, this goes back to WWI and WWII The main reason is a FMJ will go right through you and not do the damage of a HP And maybe not kill you, So if you are still alive after being shoot, you would need help right? so it takes as many as 2 men to care for one wounded, there for with one shoot you can tie up 3 people and take them out of the fight, If you kill the guy, well the rest of his people just step over him and keep going. But this does not work for the Law,

    • Ray Burke

      Napolitano’s reasoning is obvious. She considers every gun owner, legal or otherwise, the enemy !!!

      • http://twitter.com/Barbwire357 Barbara Ann Pyles

        I just wonder if she is going to ban knives, hammers & vehicles too …they kill more people a year than guns , or ban alcohol that also kills more & then ban scalpels that doctors use because there are more killed by mistakes in surgery than all put together.

    • http://www.facebook.com/debaferguson Deborah Ann Ferguson

      All of these extreme purchases need to be brought to the taxpayers attention and dealt with by our elected. Rd Paul is one of the very few challenging the current unAmerican regime, so time to turn the heat up on congress.

    • Grayzel

      Barack Hussein Obama’s private army?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

      Not to mention 2700 MRAPCs, that is armored personnel carriers. “Equally equipped as the US military” sound familiar.

      • Huapakechi

        Those need fuel and crews, and those crews need supplies. All soft targets.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joan.louise.3 Joan Louise

    lol nightmares tonight….feinstein=frankenstein

    • Spyder Dalton

      Feinkenstein to be exact…

    • http://www.facebook.com/anthony.soro.3 Anthony Soro

      One ugly witch

      • aeronca7acnc85057

        I wish you would not call her ugly. our side is better than that so lets stop the name calling even though it is true.
        Also learn to spell, that last word dose not start with a w.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Scott/100002103340101 Ed Scott

          dose? spelling? really? you are critisizing someone else’s spelling?

          • aeronca7acnc85057

            Sorry I thought our side was smart enough to catch my sarcasam
            If you have nothing inteligent to say critisize spelling

      • Huapakechi

        No real coven would tolerate her.

  • Furious citizen pilot

    I don’t scare easily, but that picture of insane Feinstein scared the heck out of me.

    • Huapakechi

      Man up! Those that are visibly insane aren’t as dangerous as those who hide it successfully.

      • Furious citizen pilot

        It was just the image. Boy is she uuuuggglllllllllllleeeeeeee

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000284349148 Royce Willard

          you got that right, she dont need a gun, sheeze most bad guys would walk around that winch, If you touched her your hair may all fall out. She just looks like she would smell like a old worn out boot.

    • Richard Brophy

      Dianne Feinstein’s face is probably just 1 mm skin and the rest is botox. I have seen her face during her facial remedial transitions, and all I can say she has always looked ghastly and unnatural, demonic even, since she started these treatments.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffery-Scism/1132815760 Jeffery Scism

        “A face that can stop a freight train”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000284349148 Royce Willard

      mee too lol, She reminds me of the little girl on the movie Exorcist, She looks like shes possessed with a demon, I wonder why Liberal women are all so Damn ugly?

      • Huapakechi

        It’s the vicious inside.



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