Smelling Blood in the Water, the White House Counters Boehner’s Proposals

Posted 12.18.12 by TPNN.com,

Speaker of the House John Boehner has desperately been reaching out to the White House in recent days, eagerly tipping his hand that he is willing to grovel to make a deal that would avoid the much-discussed fiscal cliff that is at the end of the year.

Boehner and other establishment (read: moderate) Republicans have been showing signs of cracking and considering deals that would entail increasing taxes on more-successful Americans. However, the vast majority of them have taken a “no-tax” pledge, declaring that they would not raise taxes.

On Saturday, Boehner betrayed that pledge by offering a compromise that sought to increase taxes on those making over one million dollars per year. When that was rejected, the Speaker offered to throw in extra fiscal irresponsibility by offering a one-year suspension of the debt ceiling.

While Boehner sought $1 trillion in new revenue from tax increases on income over $1 million and $1 trillion in entitlement cuts. The Obama Administration has countered with an offer of roughly $1.2 trillion in new revenue from tax increases on those making over $400,000 as well as $1.2 trillion in spending cuts.

In addition to the remarkably inadequate proposals put forth by the White House, the president’s deal also calls for extension of unemployment benefits, stimulus spending and a two-year indefinite suspension of the debt ceiling.

However, it is reported that there is some hesitance by Republicans to accept the deal due to some discrepancies in the numbers offered by the White House.

Painting Obama’s willingness to slightly tone down his fiscally reckless stance as an amazing compromise, Politico has reported on the offer, noting,

“The president’s proposal is not a final offer, but the White House views it as something that should get the two sides close to a deal because they have met Republicans more than halfway on spending and halfway on revenues, the source said.

But Boehner and other top Republicans have already rejected the Obama offer as inadequate, and they disputed some of the savings that the White House was counting in its dollar-for-dollar ratio on spending cuts versus new revenue.

‘Any movement away from the unrealistic offers the President has made previously is a step in the right direction, but a proposal that includes $1.3 trillion in revenue for only $930 billion in spending cuts cannot be considered balanced,’ Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement. ‘We hope to continue discussions with the President so we can reach an agreement that is truly balanced and begins to solve our spending problem.’”

While Boehner crusades to try and meet middle ground, this is only a battle to get to the compromised position since the last time Republicans compromised. Fiscal recklessness from tax-and-spend liberals brought us to this crisis point, and despite firm calls by Republicans to not raise taxes, the Republican leaders are fighting to make a deal that includes tax hikes.

The point of negotiating was to get to an agreement that could address the unsustainable policies of the last four years without raising taxes- it’s not to make a bad deal and sell it to the American people as, “It could’ve been worse!”

Boehner is not doing us any favors. He should just pack it in and go home because no true Republican could possibly be entertaining these laughable terms as anything remotely workable.



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  • JIM BOB

    10% on everyone with no loop holes, sounds good to me.

  • Iacovos Stratiou

    I think the president wants us to go off the fiscal cliff,and that is why he continues to reject every thing they propose at him

  • http://www.facebook.com/oscar.pearson.58 Oscar Pearson

    No new taxes and cut spending – do your job.

  • David

    You have got to be kidding. Let the fiscal cliff arrive. I hope all of Washington and the Political Jokes falls in. At least we will be able to start over.

  • dextermassolettisr

    This bogus regime is not known for ‘negotiating’ in good faith (the only basis for calling such deals as negotiations in the first place); The Boehner is not negotiating as a representatve of the people but as a tool of the corporate GOP, Obama only wishes he could sell us all out wholesale. The whole lot of these treacherous frauds need incarceration and being stripped of their ill-gotten gains.
    If there is indeed any debt in the picture it is theirs and theirs alone — they have been paying themselves with rubber checks and now their final fatal move will be to try to confiscate more than just property.
    Time to flush the buffers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.g.wood Linda Wood

    The Speaker needs to walk out the door!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.g.wood Linda Wood

    Boehner NEEDS TO WALK~!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/debbie.nickel.33 Debbie Nickel

    Hey how about this idea…lets not raise taxes on anyone….lets cut all the wasteful spending in this country. If Americans have more in their pockets then we are able to help more folks in need and we’ll have more money to stimulate the economy. We need to get rid of all the dumb programs like studying cow manure or why does a fly fly…or whatever!!! Then lets cut the retirement for people like Nancy Pelosi who will retire with over $800,000. 00 per year. What has she ever done to deserve that kind of money? WE DON’T NEED TO COMPROMISE WITH OBAMA FOR MORE TAXES…WE NEED TO CUT SPENDING!!!! Keep focused Leader Boehner!!!!!!!!!!! You need to help us because the middle class is going to take the hit. PLEASE REMAIN STRONG!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/K151487 Gary Burdick

    Newt has it right, walk away Speaker Boehner!

  • MNIce

    Mr. Speaker, you can’t win wrestling matches by lying on the mat with your arms at your sides. Mr. Obama may be holding the entire country hostage to his demand that Republicans agree to higher taxes, but he has a vulnerability – you can take his favorite agencies prisoner. NO MORE APPROPRIATIONS OR CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS for DHHS until Mr. Obama agrees to sign a complete cancellation of the tax hikes, and real cuts in spending.

  • itisthelaw

    it is so simple every rep and sen should just vote present and when bottom falls out the Republican say i told you so and take the senate in 2014

  • http://www.facebook.com/pmcconathy1 Phil McConathy

    On this deal the real losers are the American tax payers. The deal will result in IMMEDIATE tax increase for a supposed reduction of spending sometime out in the future. The idea of giving this President unlimited debt expansion is the sign of lunatic thinking!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raymond-H-Clary-Jr/1202383834 Raymond H Clary Jr

    The spineless jellyfish we know a John Boehner should not be given the keys to the House for the next two years. He has betrayed his country.

  • Howard Milliren

    The easiest thing to do is to just pass a bill in the House, preferably making permanent the Bush Tax Rates, add some cuts to programs that are counter productive and cut the budgets of EPA, Labor Department, a few other over-regulating bureaucracies and some foreign aid cuts would be in order. Let the democrats in the Senate take the blame for raising taxes. Obama has no plan and it is time to expose his hypocrisy.

  • Larry Harmon

    walk away Boehner, we don’t need to go farther in dept.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sandy.landrum.bartolin Sandy Landrum Bartolin

    The Tea Party has ruined the Republican Party, which I have been all my life. Their inability to function as the elected officials we sent to Washington has been obvious over the last 4 years. Because of them, I will no longer be a staunch Republican, but will vote my conscience in who I think can do the better job. The Tea Party has no more interest in the rights of American citizens than the Kremlin does. They want to keep AR-15 assault type weapons in the hands of John Q Public so they can keep killing children in our schools. They put us in trillions of $$ in debt in order to fight two wars in the Middle East. They want to keep lobbyists employed so they can keep collecting trips, campaign funds, etc. to supplement the income we pay them as elected officials. We need legislation that amends our constitution that limits the number of terms of office they can serve. We need legislation to ban assault weapons because these are only used for the explicit harm of human beings. Those types of weapons should only be in the hands of the police and military. Support http://www.goooh.com (‘Get out of our house’ party). As to increasing the tax percentage on those making more than $250,000, the Tea Party would rather tax the lower and middle income class than actually have someone in the upper brackets actually have to pay taxes for once. The trickle down economy effect is not effective. These upper income brackets did not create jobs when they were given tax breaks; instead, they built bigger homes, took longer and better vacations, and chose to drive expensive gas guzzling cars to help keep our dependency on foreign oil. You are not punishing them by asking them to pay in a higher tax bracket, it won’t change their standard of living one iota. The middle and lower incomes need the tax breaks because in the escalated economy they are floundering. It is time we throw the Tea Party in the harbor.

    • Big___D

      Obviously, you have NO IDEA what the Tea Party is. Your rant indicts the establishment Republicans, and some ultra right wing folks whose goals ARE NOT those of the Tea Party.

      Tea Party pure and simple: Fiscal Responsiblity. Limited Government. Free Markets. Period.

      Of course, the left have been lying mightily about the tea party, and if you’re gullible, you believe that trash.

    • MNIce

      An assault weapon is anything that can be used to harm another human being. Lots of luck banning kitchen knives and rocks… Don’t get suckered by politicians emotionally exploiting the evil behavior of one madman to take away the rights of millions of responsible, law-abiding citizens to defend themselves from tyrants or other madmen.

      May I point out that somebody had to build the homes of those rich people you want to penalize? Do you realize that they were the ones who kept the construction workers employed when the rest of the country could not? Perhaps you don’t realize that instead of going on vacation, these same rich people spent extra time at work trying to keep their companies going during the difficulties of the last four years. Perhaps you are unaware that the top 10% of earners pay 70% of the federal income taxes – if we ask them to pay their fair share, we would have to give them an additional tax cut.

      There are some wealthy people, of course, who have not been contributing so much, such as the celebrity crowd and liberal fundraisers like Al Gore – they held global warming prevention conferences at South Pacific resorts while the rest of us turned down our thermostats in mid-winter so we could afford our heating bills.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/BBS4N5EKPWAS3I3EMSK7XQRIMQ King Richard

      Dear Sandy, I am just trying to be nice, as hard as it is when you are dealing with a mindless progressive such as yourself. You have no Idea what you are talking about. In any way shape or form. My guess would be that you are probably be in your twenties or early thirties and have been thru a very liberal university on someone else’s dime or maybe have a high school education and have next to no life experiences to draw on. I would also guess that by the time you are in your late fifties or sixties you will have an entirely different outlook on life. That is If God lets this mess go on till then. I wish you the best of luck and certainly hope you recover from the disease of Liberalism before it is to late.

  • rivahmitch

    Boehner only has one strategy… PREEMPTIVE SURRENDER! He needs to go.

  • GoodBusiness

    When you owe $ 16.5 Trillion and made a budget that increases spending by more than one $ trillion per year for ever – THERE ARE ZERO CUTS – if they were cuts the budget would go DOWN not UP each year. They can not borrow their way to a plan to reduce spending.

    Here is how to end the DC total control and will restore our Liberties and Freedoms -

    http://www.912communique.com/forum/topics/article-v-1-fatal-shot

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leroy-Franklin-Baldwin/1686150569 Leroy Franklin Baldwin

    Give the devil and INCH and will take the entire ruler. I say; NO TO THE president(?) You think, maybe, he thinks himself, “the king”?

    • http://www.facebook.com/charlie.self1 Charlie Self

      I think he thinks he’s the President, who was just re-elected.

    • http://www.facebook.com/imdavr David J Reisner

      Chairman Obama………

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  • http://www.facebook.com/darryl.obrien.984 Darryl OBrien

    Fire any congressman who votes for increase spending and does not get deep spending cuts We are Broke Does any one understand this country is Bankrupt There arent enought countrys in the world to bale us out of our debt

  • http://twitter.com/Mercyjf Jane Fairchild

    AS AN AMERICAN TAX PAYER – I say that I am TIRED OF ALL THIS GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND WASTE and maybe we should all NOT PAY OUR TAXES and tell our GOVERNMENT – we will not pay our taxes until you quit spending our taxes on PORK SPENDING, LUXURY VACATIONS FOR HIGH UPS IN GOVERNMENT (including prostitution), and also for paying for common things such as toilets that cost us about $3,000, or hammers that cost us about $1,800 – STOP SPENDING what we do not want to spend our taxes on or else we STOP PAYING IN OUR TAXES…

  • Gary

    If you sell us out I will no longer be a Republican and that is a fact , go home and let Obama handle this mess by himself , he got us into it and he should get us out of it. also I can not believe you want no S.S. raises on us old folks, SHAME on you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • MNIce

      I hate to bring you bad news, but we cannot afford to maintain Social Security and Medicare at present payout levels. Below are today’s numbers from usdebtclock.org, showing the six largest Federal expense categories. Note that we cannot stop paying interest or Employee Pensions. Income Security is an euphemism for non-retiree welfare programs other than Medicaid.

      Now, I would agree that the world’s richest poor people can and should give up something. But that implies that the rest of the population will also have to give up some federal “benefit” programs. If we all selfishly insist ours not be touched, well, that is how we got into our fiscal mess, and we will remain there.

      Total Federal revenue: $2.444 trillion

      Medicaid/Medicare: $0.724 trillion
      Social Security: $0.761 trillion
      National Defense: $0.652 trillion
      Income Security: $0.358 trillion
      Interest on National Debt: $0.258 trillion

      Federal Employee Pensions: $0.212 trillion

  • G. Graham

    My best guess is that Boehner is trying to get the revenue side of the negotiations off the table.. so that we can move to the spending side. The problem is that the WH and Dems have already stated that no plan that comes from the GOP House is going to pass..

    If you read between the lines, this is being done because Obama does not want to cut spending. He has no intention of cutting spending. IMHO, the intent is to let all the tax cut expire and let the sequester take effect. Then early in the first qtr of 2013, Obama can come back and offer new tax cuts and also offer additional military spending. By doing this.. he just made the Dems the party of tax cuts and strong military completely taking the Republicans identity away from them.

    Instead of negotiating with himself.. Boehner and the rest of the Republican party should be relaying what is going on.. I know we are “conservative”.. but that does not mean you have to be passive! Tell the people that Obama is the only one at the negotiation table that wants to raise taxes on the American people. Tell everyone that it is Obama that does not want to cut spending..

  • http://twitter.com/Jbellisario1405 Joseph Bellisario

    We already know that the country is not truly conservative by considering the election results. Now is a time to stop our country from living off of borrowed money but compomise is and will be necessary. Standing tough will get us no where!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Mead/100003763986165 Robert Mead

    How about alot of spending cuts and no taxes. Obama don’t know economics. He only knows taxaton and regulation!

    • http://www.facebook.com/charlie.self1 Charlie Self

      You are the one who doesn’t know economics.

      • MNIce

        What is your basis for the accusation of ignorance? Suppose your child spends $50 a week on amusements on his $40 weekly allowance, and demands another $15 per week. Wouldn’t you say, “How about a lot of spending cuts and no additional allowance?”

        We are already very generous towards our governments; taxation at all levels is 33% of the GDP. But they spend 41% of the GDP.

        If you don’t understand what’s wrong with this picture, you are the one who has difficulty with economic concepts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1815366667 Eric Nelson

    boehner is a idiot he has always rolled over and played dead.if they give obama a open check book for even one day we are done,are they really as stupid as they appear?how can anyone be that dumb?they all need to be rounded up and replaced.

  • C Davis

    I seem to recall this strategy backfiring a few years ago…something about “Read My Lips” comes to mind……….

    • http://www.facebook.com/chuck.watson.923 Chuck Watson

      And less we forget the 5 million republicans that did’t vote. Thank you, you stupid idiots.

  • Greg137

    No one has the money that can pay the tax-burden.. The government needs to cut their loses and reduce spending! We should also support the Impeachment of Obama, and the defense of our right to bear arms!

    • http://www.facebook.com/sandy.landrum.bartolin Sandy Landrum Bartolin

      Are you the next sicko out there with an AR-15 killing school children? We need a ban on these weapons with a heavy fine and prison term!

      • richard_fl

        Your post is a satirical joke, right??

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/BBS4N5EKPWAS3I3EMSK7XQRIMQ King Richard

        Who are you calling someone nuts. An AR15 is nothing more than any other semi-automatic rifle with the possible exception of its mag capacity. Almost any semi -auto can be reloaded in an instant bu carrying xtra mags that are readily available on the market. It is not the type of guns available or even guns period that is the problem, it is the moral decay that has taken place in our country that is the problem. You can completely disarm the legal, non-criminal citizenry of this country and your problem will only get worse. When you do that only criminals will be armed or our government, which at this point in time is almost as bad and mayhem will take place in the streets on a regular basis.

      • USMCret

        Had there been an armed teacher in that school the killer would have been stopped. When guns are outlawed than only criminals and government will have guns.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.budzinsky John Budzinsky

    I would like to see everyone just flat refuse to pay any taxes and see how they like that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darryl.obrien.984 Darryl OBrien

      Put a petition together to stop paying taxes if we can raise millions of sinatures to send to congress Give them a dead line they dont meet it Millions of people stop paying taxes any they can That would put a wake up call in.

    • http://www.facebook.com/charlie.self1 Charlie Self

      The jails would be overcrowded.

      • USMCret

        There aren’t enough fails to hold the entire working taxpayer public but what about the camps this OBAMANAYSHON has started to set up around the country?

    • USMCret

      John, I totally agree that should every working taxpayer throughout the whole USof A were to take a 2 week voluntary vacation after stocking up the larder what could those liberalsocialist/commies do to the entire working tax payer base, put us all in jail?

  • http://www.facebook.com/grannyshmanny Charlene Geren

    Obama wants to raise the debt ceiling so he can have more money to spend on moochelles vacations and give to his cronies.He hates America and wants us to be a 3 rd world country so we will be easy to overthrow when the time comes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darryl.obrien.984 Darryl OBrien

      Right on the money He owes a lot of money to people he took money from

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1267069274 Joel D. Mrosek

    We hear to much about a “compromise”. There is no such thing. Only capitulation. We are talking about black and white positions. Greater Spending and Taxes vs Less Spending and Taxes. Both sides are sworn to either increasing or decreasing taxes on one specific demographic. Some issues are “either/or” and don’t allow for compromise. How would one compromise on the Womens’ Right to Vote? Give them 1/2 a vote? When a deal is struck it will be a cowardice on both sides and a walking away from campaign promises. The principled thing to do is go over the artificially created “fiscal cliff”. Created by the same cowards that got us into this mess in the first place. People from both ends of the spectrum should be disgusted by the capitulation AND the ensuing “high fiving” that will occur when they act like heros, rather than unprincipled cowards.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.galloway3 Kathleen Galloway

      guess when you come from Ohiobama you are not really a C..just a watered down rino bordering on lib!!!!! get him out!!!! we need a strong c caucas in the house !!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/darryl.obrien.984 Darryl OBrien

      Going over the cliff is better then putting this country deeper in debt
      We are Bankrupt Obama wants to bring our debt to 25 trillion dollars We could not survive that kind of debt Obamas own words about the debt ” the debt is not a problem now later in the futher it will be”
      This is a person who cleary does not care about the futher of this country or the kids who will be burdened with it Stop the madness now Demand spending cuts and no taxes rasied on business they are the ones making jobs

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.doyle.92798 Bill Doyle

    time for a new speaker!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.galloway3 Kathleen Galloway

      for sure he just does not get it i agree with newt walk away go home for cmas and let the chips fall where they may ! screw the libs!!!!! replace Boehner pleeeese!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Gary

      YES and now

    • http://www.facebook.com/sandy.landrum.bartolin Sandy Landrum Bartolin

      You got that right! We need to throw all of them out of the house and
      start over!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/DeChantel-D-Gherlone/619884285 DeChantel D. Gherlone

    Hope it’s BO blood in the water.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1501417684 Nancy Myers

    Boehner has been blinded by the Smoke&Mirrors of Obama folks. Boehner is two faced and is in it to save his political career period.

    • http://www.facebook.com/frank.ray.716 Frank Ray

      Funny thing is, his willingness to compromise is probably what is going to end his career.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.galloway3 Kathleen Galloway

        yep the C’s are not happy with the purges he’s allowed and his damn threats against anyone not going his way he is a disgusting as PIGLOSI..term limits , too much power !!!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/sandy.landrum.bartolin Sandy Landrum Bartolin

        If he doesn’t make a compromise, then his career will be over!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kathleen.galloway3 Kathleen Galloway

      well he will not save it with what he is doing!! people are fed up with ri nos and libs ! I would think a lot more of him if he just walked away and let them stew!! O will not honor anything no debt ceiling increase period !! if not we will be toast!!!!!



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