What Kind of Values Are Being Taught In a School Named For a Murderer?

Posted 12.19.12 by TPNN.com,

By John Hawkins
TPNN Contributor

This is what happens when a society decides to pretend that the moral values of the people teaching our children are irrelevant.

A California school district is defending its decision to name a new elementary school after an infamous murderer – by calling him a hero and a role model to children. The decision has infuriated many parents and law enforcement officers.

The Alisal Union School District in Salinas agreed to name the new school in honor of Tiburcio Vasquez – who was eventually hanged for killing at least two people in the nineteenth century.

Superintendent John Ramirez defended the board’s decision telling Fox News that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

“Tiburcio Vasquez, along with others, was an individual who was a revolutionary,” Ramierz said. “He was not okay with the oppression.”

Vasquez “was probably the most notorious bandit California ever saw,” according to the University of Southern California library. He was 14-years-old when he committed his first crime – stabbing a constable.

In 1875 Vasquez was convicted of two murders and subsequently hanged. Other historical records indicate he may have killed as many as six people – including a law enforcement officer.
“He took from the rich and gave to the poor,” Francisco Estrada told KION. “He was your inspiration of Zorro.”

…Ramirez told Fox News that Vasquez is a role model to Mexican-Americans.

“When you have individuals who have been struggling for so long, dealing with oppression and systematic oppression, then you bring up leaders who have fought against resistance, of course they are going to be role models to you,” he told Fox News. “Vasquez is an individual who did that prior to us — who can be sort of a hero to us.”

But some local officials said they have a problem with naming a school after a violent criminal.

“You would not name a school Charles Manson Elementary, Ted Bundy Middle School or Bernie Madoff High,” one parent told the school board.

Tiburcio Vasquez, the man John Ramirez believes is a “role model to Mexican-Americans,” was a violent career criminal who stole everything that wasn’t nailed down, killed a police officer, robbed banks and even told a paper that he wanted to return California to Mexican rule.

Naming the school after Charles Manson would be an improvement.

Of course, an even better improvement would be firing everyone associated with naming that school after human garbage like Tiburcio Vasquez, changing the name of the school, and getting some decent, competent people to run that school and give those kids a decent education.



  • marylou

    Amazing…this is your School department at work…does anyone wonder why young people are massacring people when their school is named after a murderer….and the school dept. thinks it’s okay…….. because it pacifies mexican americans…who are stupid enough to call him a hero!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/marvin.b.weems Marvin Burke Weems

    sounds like Beaumont Texas ISD

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  • Penmar

    Well, it appears he succeeded in his goal of returning California to Mexican rule.

  • Guest

    Well, looks like he succeeded in his goal or returning California to Mexican Rule.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Gilbert/1450832861 Steve Gilbert

    Nelson Mandela was jailed for making bombs to be used in terrorists attacks on civilians.
    His organization then for decades murdered thousands of innocents, white and black, yet he is honored everywhere.
    The world honors the sick murderoues scum of the earth and then is shocked, shocked, when we produce more of the same.

  • rjs

    This is just one of the reasons why America is so screwed up……They don’t call it the land of fruits and nuts for nothing…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Neal/1307712492 James Neal

    That’s like re-naming Sandy Hook Elementary as Adam Lanza Elementary. WTF is wrong with these people? Every day another sign that America has gone nuts….

  • http://twitter.com/KRNC1960 Solid RED

    Insanity is what you get when a Democrat runs something, this is just another example of that!

  • http://twitter.com/cjtay51 Cindi Taylor

    Yet, in New Mexico, the governor won’t even pardon Billy the Kid, who should have been given the evidence before him. If it’s okay to regard this Vasquez as a hero to his people, then maybe we should pardon every single terrorist who has attacked our nation in the name of the terrorists’ culture. This is a stupid and ignorant thing to do. I hope they change their minds. I cannot believe the direction our country is going in, although the Bible states that in the end times, good would be considered evil and evil good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/S.spike.murphy Spike Murphy

    Don’t we have schools named after men who killed their countrymen in defense of slavery? Or is that somehow different because we don’t like to think of men like Robert E. Lee as traitors instead of freedom fighters?

    • http://www.facebook.com/tmkeene Thomas Michael Keene

      Learn your history. Robert E. Lee was asked by the president himself to lead the Unions forces. Lee, while for the idea of keeping the union intact, chose to side with his beloved home state of Virginia. Despite what your T.V. told you, the civil war was not fought for slavery.

      • http://www.facebook.com/S.spike.murphy Spike Murphy

        Then why was slavery listed as the first and primary reason given in South Carolina’s Declaration of Secession? It’s plain as day when you read the document, the main point of contention is the refusal of northern states to enforce the fugitive slave act and similar laws. So the north fought to preserve the union, whereas the south fought to preserve the right of states to continue slavery. So maybe you should be cracking open some history books that weren’t white washed by southern apologists.

        The point, as you inadvertently have shown, is that it’s a matter of perspective. If General Petraeus had turned down heading the CIA to instead be head of intelligence for the Taliban or Pakistan, we’d be calling him a traitor; and yet when it’s Robert E. Lee, suddenly it’s a whole different story and he’s a “freedom fighter”. Just like to the British, George Washington was a traitor, whereas to us he is a revolutionary and the father of our nation.

        George H.W. Bush sold weapons to Iran to hold onto the hostages until after the ’80 election, does that mean we shouldn’t have airports and schools named after him? How about Reagan, he sold weapons to the Contra’s, should he be banned from having his name on schools? Or Andrew Jackson, whose animosity and actions toward the Native Americans easily qualify him as a war criminal?

        The point is that life and history are not as black and white as TV and the media would like us to believe. So why are some groups entitled to their cultural heroes and not others?

        Finally, if Vasquez is the inspiration for Zorro, that means he’s also the inspiration for Batman; how could anyone be against naming a school after Batman?!?



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