With ‘Plan B’ in Ruins, Tensions Mount in the GOP

Posted 12.22.12 by Greg Campbell, TPNN Contributor

By Greg Campbell
TPNN Contributor

The events following the news of the defeat dealt to Speaker of the House John Boehner have been no less turbulent than the events before Congress adjourned.

On Thursday, as Boehner tried to rally support for his “Plan B” tax hike proposal, things got heated between two rival factions of the GOP. With moderates looking to compromise on raising taxes during a time of economic uncertainty, the conservative wing of the GOP had made it clear that tax hikes were out of the question, citing tax-and-spend antics as being a central cause of our current economic crisis.

Plan B was pulled from the floor before it could be voted on due to lack of support. Boehner met with Republican leaders in a closed-door meeting before finally recessing Thursday. While still expressing hope that a deal can be struck, Boehner stated, “How we get there, God only knows.”

The bill is almost certainly doomed, not having gained enough traction with Republican leaders in the House for acquiescing to Democratic demands for tax increases and not having the support of Democrats in the Senate.

It is reported that anonymous Republican members of the House are working on an effort to oust Boehner as the Speaker, but little else is known as reprisal is a major concern, especially after the recent purge of conservative leaders from leadership positions by Boehner.

Tempers flared before the recess as moderate Republican leaders implored conservatives to vote for the compromise. According to reports, Pennsylvania Republican Mike Kelly passionately questioned, “Is this the best we can do? Is this the best we can do for John Boehner?”

However, in truth, Kelly could not really be surprised as conservatives had made their displeasure with the bill known for some time. Earlier this month, leading Tea Party members and fiscal conservatives met with conservative members of Congress to submit 160,000 petitions demanding no tax increases.

Perhaps the strongest words for conservatives were uttered by Ohio Republican Steve LaTourette who, when referring to conservative members of the GOP, said,

“It’s the same 40 chuckleheads that screwed this place up… [Boehner’s] done everything to make nice with them.”

Though both Boehner and Obama have claimed to remain optimistic, the facts suggest that little will change before the end of the year. Obama implored members of Congress to take another shot at reaching an agreement and Boehner relayed a similar sentiment, but both have left the state to spend the holidays elsewhere. Though they both return before the deadline of January 1st, it is unlikely that factional stances will dramatically shift in a matter of days.



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  • mike@gap247.com

    We do not need a third party. We got Bill Clinton because of a third party. We can get the liberals out of the Republican Party if we stand together.

  • mike@gap247.com

    Spending Cuts First.

  • Sarah417

    You are not going to get spending cuts or reducing the debt as long as Obama is in office. He is only interested in one thing and that is to one-upmanship against the Republicans. He doesn’t care about America.

  • jerrya2480

    Why do these republicans seem so worried about taxes instead of focusing on immediat real spending cuts? This is where our real problem is.

    • Paul Rarey

      I don’t see where GOP is worried about taxes, except where OBozo’s said he wont’ consider any bill without tax increases.

      GOP is AOK with no-Taxes. Problem is Boehner won’t STAND FIRM on NO TAXES….. The TEA had to tell him NO, now he’s crying,

      • jerrya2480

        What do you mean? every word and every news reports including talk radio seem to be focasing on taxes-if we go over the cliff we just might head for reduced spending and a balanced budget.

  • dodger4754

    The Progressives have moved so far to the left that to find common ground means that moderate Republicans think they have to move farther left, too. What they actually need to do is move back to the right of the “moderate” position, thus forcing the Progressives to move right also in order to get anything done.

    A side effect of such a move by Republicans is that it would bring the true Conservatives, the ones who didn’t even bother to vote for Romney the liberal, out of “retirement” and back to the Republican Party.

  • Paul Rarey

    If Boehner was making progress drawing down the Debt/Spending that would be one thing. But he’s done NOTHING to get good bills onto OBozo’s desk.

  • http://www.facebook.com/doug.swanson.77 Doug Swanson

    At some point we have to learn the art of compromise. I am a conservative Republican but not a naive one that thinks we can get our way by pouting and petulance. Unfortunately, Obama won because we ran a hideous campaign. Now we have to find a way to compromise with the moron so we can keep this country functional for the next 4 years. Obama has all the high cards in this game!!

    • dodger4754

      Please read my comment, 2 above this one. You have the same attitude as the “moderate” Republicans. Let’s give in and raise our “white flag of surrender”. We actually need to do exactly the opposite, forcing Odumbo and the Progressives rightward in order to accomplish anything. If we continue to allow them to draw us to the left, we’ll soon be the socialists and they’ll be the communists. Some of them already , admittedly. are!

  • Michael_Barrett

    I heard this recording of Ronald Reagan the other day and remembered the first time I heard him speak it originally: “I believe that in both spirit and substance our tax system has become un-American. Death and taxes may be inevitable, but unjust taxes are not. The first American Revolution was sparked by an unshakable conviction: Taxation without representation is tyranny.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Cramer/100003474361314 Thomas Cramer

    Tell LaTourette to go join the Democrats. He has only a 35% conservative rating. That makes him a Progressive regardless of Party.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

    Im tired of him kissing Obama feet and saying its what we want. The GOP will die if they dont replace him.

    • dodger4754

      Well said, Carol. We need a truly conservative “Tea Party” (call it whatever you want).

  • http://twitter.com/LDommel Linda Dommel

    Boehner & Obama working on blaming it on the TEA PARTY! Rep LaTourette you chuckleheads got us into this. NO deal means spending cuts. Chucklehead u made the deal with the spending cut committee. Should have done your job in the first place!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Perkins/100001320211101 Edward Perkins

    I would like to see Paul Ryan replace Boehner as House Speaker.

  • mark linden

    Third Party? …let’s get down to it and offer the R’s to turn in their badges and call themselves Libertarians. Folks are afraid to vote L b/c of the belief a candidate with that tag can’t win and/or will take from the guy/gal with an R next to their name. If the Libertarian Supermen currently in office would drop their Clark Kent disguises and declare who they really are they could legislate, and run for re-election under a title they can be proud of and which truely ID’s who they are (and who they represent). This would give clout to the cause and in 2014 we could have Libertarians on ballots all across the nation, at all levels, who would have a legit chance of winning and we could have confidence that our votes would carry a real impact in supporting a candidate to Win. Libertarian Party. rises in 2013!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ornery.eagle Ornery Eagle

    ….it’s a test; the GoneOleParty just want to see how far left the TP will go before they oust the ‘noodles’ and put some real leadership on-deck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ornery.eagle Ornery Eagle

    ….WHAT’S TAKIN SO LONG?….get er dun!

  • Nick

    Get rid of Boehner… Hes a PUZZY!!!

  • Sarah417

    Let’s look at reality. The democrats don’t care about America. And they certainly don’t care about the constitution. Their goal is to FIGHT the Republicans and until we understand that we will lose. They only want to win against the republicans. We need to understand that and fight fire with fire. We need to get down and dirty and fight them on their own level because after all we want to win. Conservatives need to stop turning the other cheek.

    • http://twitter.com/Jbellisario1405 Joseph Bellisario

      Just remember that as this drags on, we will be harming our economy! The most important issue here is reducing our National Debt – the sooner the better.

      • blogid

        Well you are not going to get relief for either with Boehner and OBAMA——GET rid of the FECKLESS SPEAKER——HE IS the WOrst SPEAKER in recent history——Our Congressmen were not elected to do BOEHNERS BIDDING——they were elected to do OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Cobb/1600801766 Timothy Cobb

    Warned the repubs in this state about this looser they kicked me off thier website. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raymond-H-Clary-Jr/1202383834 Raymond H Clary Jr

    It’s time we got a truly conservative Republican as Speaker of the House. Haven’t had one since Newt, and he had to leave because so many of the RINOs turned their backs on him. The dufus Republicans in the House and Senate will never be able to do anything for the country when they hold power until they learn how to be winners. I hate to say that, but that’s the way it is. Pelosi’s “We won, you lost, now sit down and shut up” advice to Republican lawmakers in, I think, 1997, set the stage for unprecedented partisanship.

  • Sarah417

    Be careful what you wish for. Cantor is next in line for Speaker. He may be worse. God forbid they would elect a fresh young conservative, real conservative person with new ideas. That’s not the government way.

  • Over the Road Steve

    What was the point of all this “Plan B” garbage? Obama said he would veto it, Reid in the Senate said he would never bring it up to vote. Why did Boehner even attempt to introduce it? it was dead in the water from the start, yet Boehner and the House RINOs felt they had to force the conservative into it. Then, when the conservatives don’t agree to it, the establishment calls them names. The Republicans are idiots. Barry has them wrapped around his little finger.

  • dextermassolettisr

    Corporate GOP getting a little tense? about time — they’ve been playing patty-cake with the socialist slime for too many years and now the chickens have started coming home to roost.
    Can they see themselves in the same bread-lines with the rest of us now? After all, the ‘guns’ could all be in the hands of “our leaders” they have been sucking up to just for their little share of the pie.
    Our heros in Congress. They are for the Constitution when they talk and against it when they act.
    Cut off spending? why, that would be a cut in our pay, for a perfect example.
    Time for a regime change by bankruptcy I guess. Could be bloodless.

  • gfca

    Agree with George. We need to take over the Republican Party or go our own way andmake The Tea Party fully functional like the the other two parties…i.e candidates, platform,etc.

    No way three parties would be worse than what we already have!!!

    Wish Palin would get off the sidelines and take charge. She is an INCREDIBLE woman…wise, courageous and gracious. What the media has done to ruin her is nothing short scandalous. They are either incompetent, ignorant or scoundrels and traitors. The TeaParty, ACLJ and other similar organizations should be using resources to take the media to court for negligence and abuse of power. These media sources should have their licenses revoked, fined and sent to prison! Endless Protests across the country.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

      I always liked her till she got in with McCain. Now I have serious doubts. But Boehner I have no doubts about. He has to go.

    • MNIce

      There are no “media licenses” in a free country. See the First Amendment! There are broadcast licenses for those who own and operate radio or television transmitters, but that is more for preventing physical interference between stations than any other purpose.

      Warranty law for negligence won’t get you very far – you have to be able to prove you purchased a defective product. Since the product is actually purchased by the advertisers, only they would have standing to sue. The “news media” has no legal power to abuse, even though they do abuse their social positions and functions. In other words, they are insulated from legal consequences so long as they do not commit libel, and that is difficult to prove. Where the news media is vulnerable is their reputation. When people complain to advertisers that they are supporting unprofessional, dishonest or negligent news programs, and make it known that reflects poorly on the advertisers, then the reporters will feel the pressure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Jr-Vanchieri/100000630756130 Joseph Jr Vanchieri

    The term “moderate is what has been the demise of the GOP. We showed up in 2010 to let them know we have the backing to get what we know is best. A return to the time when we all loved God and country. To me a moderate is a person who is willing to give up on their beliefs to appease what they know is wrong but just trying to ” copromise”. We have compromised our morals and any sense of pride in our country. It has got to the point where foreign jounalists are trying to shape our country. We need to stand our ground to show we are willing to compromise on financial matters but as far as the Constitution goes it is off limits. We have a stranger in the White House who isn’t even elegible to be there. It has been proven. We have a Speaker who thinks by “playing footsie with Obama will make it okay to compromise. Try this for compromise. CUT SPENDING AND LEAVE THE TAX CUTS IN THERE!! They are spent all of our money , our childrens money and our Grandchilrens money. It is way past enough!

  • MidnightDStroyer

    “According to reports, Pennsylvania Republican Mike Kelly passionately
    questioned, ‘Is this the best we can do? Is this the best we can do for
    John Boehner?’”
    I think the problem lies with the line of “standard thinking” among political pundits. Why do they always seem to miss the most important points? In this example, the question should not be “Is this the best we can do for John Boehner?” but rather, “Is John Boehner the best we can do for the People?”

    After all, those jobs in government were created by the People; without the People, government itself does not exist and the People are their employers. Any time that a pundit in Office leaves the People out of their deliberations, then they do not deserve and cannot handle the function of the jobs they hold. Pundits who reason along such lines need to be fired for incompetence and replaced by someone who understands the inherent responsibilities of the job; the job exists because of the People.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Burke/1573712155 Daniel Burke

    Boehner has been a disgrace to the position and it’s long overdue that he be replaced. He’s almost as bad as Obama in terms of his “leadership.” The term “leadership’ applied to this man is a bad joke. He’s another politician with a spaghetti spine and “leadership” is not is his DNA. Send him home with a case of bourbon and a carton of Kleenex.

    • MNIce

      He reminds of Bob Michel, the perennial House Minority Leader in the bad old days before 1994. As long as he was a good boy, the Speaker and the other Democrats who ran Congress would let him carry their golf clubs. One difference is that Representative Michel knew his limitations and refused to run for Speaker when the Republicans won the majority.

  • Harry

    I have been a Tea Party member almost since it started. But I hate to say it the group has gone astray. Boehners idea of $1million was the best of all ideas put forward. The wealthy ones have agreed they don’t pay enough. So it is time for the Tea Party to quit fighting everything and get this job done once and for all.

    • dextermassolettisr

      Too bad Harry, you’ve missed much of the last four years in the real world.
      “The wealthy ones have agreed they don’t pay enough.”
      You read the news that only comes in cartoons? The TEA party cannot quit fighting until taxes have some basis in reality, obvously you do not have a grip.
      The job of (getting) keeping government honest does not ever get ‘done once and for all’ — or is that a bus ticket you are holding.

      • Harry

        You are the one that has watched and help make the mess that we are in if you think like that.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4DW23G4VU2HJAPBFZ7OHNC2FVY John

          Harry, Ovomit wants to keep the spending. As long as they don’t dramatically reduce spending, we have accomplished nothing.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4DW23G4VU2HJAPBFZ7OHNC2FVY John

      Harry, the wealthy are not going to pay more in taxes. If you have a good accountant you will pay 2.2% federal tax. So it always comes down to the middle class gets screwed. Tax increase for the middle class and lose 5 to 6 million jobs. We are fighting communist. Ovomit is a communist tryrant and a Muslim. He is also Gay and a full time liar. You want to compromise with that? He cannot be trusted to do anything he says. It has to be forced down his and the demodorks throat, and made to swallow it with no water to wash it down. They don’t understand anything else.

      • Harry

        I know all that already I have kept up with more than you and I won’t be continuing this thread.

      • MNIce

        “If you have a good accountant you will pay 2.2% federal tax.” That is a myth. Mitt Romney can afford the best accountants money can buy, and he already pays about 14% even with literally millions of dollars in charitable deductions, and most of his income coming from lower-rate dividends and capital gains.

        If a person has a million-dollar income and is paying only 2.2%, the IRS most likely has an auditor getting ready to go to work on that one.

        The real scam is the whole notion of taxing the rich at a higher rate. The income tax is designed to keep people from becoming rich more than to soak the rich (although they pay much more than their share of the cost of government). Some of the wealthy who call for higher taxes actually have something to gain from the change. For example, the death tax often forces heirs to sell the family business to pay the tax. Warren Buffet has picked up a number of very profitable business units cheaply for this very reason. Some people aver that’s why he might want the death tax rate to go back up.

  • rocco santa guida

    does someone have LaTourette’s syndrome?

  • http://www.facebook.com/george.goodwald George J. Goodwald

    I fully support replacing Boehner and all moderate Republican leaders with true conservatives who have the backbone to stand up for our country and not their political careers. This includes taking on the liberals of both parties and the mainstream news media. Country first!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/judith.martwinski Judith Martwinski

      Amen!

      • http://twitter.com/Spikehb Spikehb

        I second your amen.

    • HowardLast

      And let them join the Democrap Party, that is where they belong.

      • Jim Gribbin

        Hear! Here!



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